Is The Bible Accurate As History? (1 Viewer)

[viktor]

Yes
Archaeology Confirms 53 people mentioned in the Bible
https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org...ople-in-the-bible-confirmed-archaeologically/


Reliability of the Old Testament









Dr James Hoffmeier Confirms the Exodus











William Propp on the exodus









From The Smithsonian Museum

https://2think.org/ssotb.shtml

“On the other hand, much of the Bible, in particular the historical books of the old testament, are as accurate historical documents as any that we have from antiquity and are in fact more accurate than many of the Egyptian, Mesopotamian, or Greek histories. These Biblical records can be and are used as are other ancient documents in archeological work. For the most part, historical events described took place and the peoples cited really existed. “



The New Testament Is Reliable as History











https://www.amazon.com/New-Testamen...d2596&pd_rd_wg=FXa0u&pd_rd_i=0802822193&psc=1


Here are 4 examples of research that show it is

 

[bird]

7 problems with a recent evangelical defense of the historicity of Genesis 1-11 - The Bible For Normal People

Zondervan’s latest volume in their popular “Counterpoints” series concerns the historicity of Genesis 1-11, Genesis: History, Fiction, or Neither?: Three Views on the Bible’s Earliest Chapters. The three well-known contributors are James...

peteenns.com

Here is a discussion that it is not. Confirmation of people whose names are listed in scripture is irrelevant. Caesar Augustus is mentioned yet he did not command that a census be taken of "the whole world" as Rome did not rule the whole world. Nor would he have required people to get up and move to alleged "ancestral homes".

No, it is not history. Any more than historical fiction which uses historical figures is history.

 

[viktor]

7 problems with a recent evangelical defense of the historicity of Genesis 1-11 - The Bible For Normal People

Zondervan’s latest volume in their popular “Counterpoints” series concerns the historicity of Genesis 1-11, Genesis: History, Fiction, or Neither?: Three Views on the Bible’s Earliest Chapters. The three well-known contributors are James...

peteenns.com

Here is a discussion that it is not. Confirmation of people whose names are listed in scripture is irrelevant. Caesar Augustus is mentioned yet he did not command that a census be taken of "the whole world" as Rome did not rule the whole world. Nor would he have required people to get up and move to alleged "ancestral homes".

No, it is not history. Any more than historical fiction which uses historical figures is history.

I presented evidence. Your simple denials are useless.

 

[bird]

I presented evidence. Your simple denials are useless.

Did you read the link? Your and Hoffmeier's assertions are not evidence. Thus your conclusion is unsupported and unsupportable.

 

[viktor]

Did you read the link? Your and Hoffmeier's assertions are not evidence. Thus your conclusion is unsupported and unsupportable.

Hoffmeier is a Professor of Egyptology. That means he is considered by the law to be an expert in his field.His professional opinion is evidence,

 

[bird]

Hoffmeier is a Professor of Egyptology. That means he is considered by the law to be an expert in his field.His professional opinion is evidence,

Bart Ehrman is a Professor of religious studies at UNC-Chapel Hill. Pete Enns is a Professor of biblical studies. Being a professor does not mean that his professional opinion is factual.

Try again.

Either the Bible is historical or it is not. A small example of the problem comes the Noah myth. We are told that Noah was to call the animals two by two, male and female. Then we are told that he is to take 7 pairs of all clean animals when the dietary laws do not occur until after Moses. So which is it? Furthermore, regarding the Exodus occurred in 1400’s BCE. Oddly enough the Egyptian New Kingdom stretched in to the Near East including clashing with the ruler of what is Syria today. it seems the Hebrews did not leave Egypt rather the Egyptians left the Near East.

The bible is not history despite claims that it is.

 

[MT15]

Opinion does not equal evidence. An opinion can never be evidence, by definition.

 

[Booker]

No. Literally nothing in the bible took place as described. Nothing. The writers name dropping a few places doesn't give credence to the mythology that it spins. Is Spider-man real because Manhattan exists? Is Captain America real because he was depicted punching Adolph Hitler, who was real?

Biblical maximalists tend to work backwards -- they "know" their conclusion is accurate (because the bible tells them so, or their funding and careers depend on arriving at that predetermined conclusion), so they work backwards and cherry pick what supports their conclusion, but they have to ignore an awful lot of evidence to the contrary.

This is a pretty balanced article discussing the issue...

Is the Bible a true story? Recent finds and technological advances yield surprising discoveries | Special Report

The latest archaeological finds have yielded some surprises

www.haaretz.com

But beyond the settings used for the stories, the events depicted are mythology. The patriarchs are recognized as mythological figures who didn't exist. There may have been a David, but if so he and his kingdom were nothing like what was depicted. Even the new testament is completely unsupported outside of the bible. There's no contemporary evidence of Jesus and his ministry, so even if a Jesus did exist, he was so insignificant as to avoid notice during his lifetime and there is no supporting evidence for any of his activities or supposed miracles.

It's just mythology.

 

[viktor]

No. Literally nothing in the bible took place as described. Nothing. The writers name dropping a few places doesn't give credence to the mythology that it spins. Is Spider-man real because Manhattan exists? Is Captain America real because he was depicted punching Adolph Hitler, who was real?

Biblical maximalists tend to work backwards -- they "know" their conclusion is accurate (because the bible tells them so, or their funding and careers depend on arriving at that predetermined conclusion), so they work backwards and cherry pick what supports their conclusion, but they have to ignore an awful lot of evidence to the contrary.

This is a pretty balanced article discussing the issue...

Is the Bible a true story? Recent finds and technological advances yield surprising discoveries | Special Report

The latest archaeological finds have yielded some surprises

www.haaretz.com

But beyond the settings used for the stories, the events depicted are mythology. The patriarchs are recognized as mythological figures who didn't exist. There may have been a David, but if so he and his kingdom were nothing like what was depicted. Even the new testament is completely unsupported outside of the bible. There's no contemporary evidence of Jesus and his ministry, so even if a Jesus did exist, he was so insignificant as to avoid notice during his lifetime and there is no supporting evidence for any of his activities or supposed miracles.

It's just mythology.

I can see that evidence does not matter to you and all that does are your prejudices. I won't waste anymore time with you.

 

[viktor]

Opinion does not equal evidence. An opinion can never be evidence, by definition.

WRONG

Federal Rules of Evidence

www.law.cornell.edu

See Article VII

 

[bird]

WRONG

Federal Rules of Evidence

www.law.cornell.edu

See Article VII

An expert rendering an opinion in court does not make that opinion factual or accurate.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

From The Smithsonian Museum

https://2think.org/ssotb.shtml

“On the other hand, much of the Bible, in particular the historical books of the old testament, are as accurate historical documents as any that we have from antiquity and are in fact more accurate than many of the Egyptian, Mesopotamian, or Greek histories. These Biblical records can be and are used as are other ancient documents in archeological work. For the most part, historical events described took place and the peoples cited really existed. “

Just out of curiosity, why did you omit this line from your link?

"In the best analysis, the Bible is a religious book, not an historical document."

 

[SystemShock]

Hoffmeier is a Professor of Egyptology. That means he is considered by the law to be an expert in his field.His professional opinion is evidence,

His professional apologist opinion is an apologist's opinion.

The Popol Vuh says the pyramid of the foreseer in Uxmal was built by a dwarf in one day. Anyone who goes to Uxmal can see the pyramid. Does that mean the dwarf existed and built the pyramid in one day?

20,000 Leagues Under the Seas mention New York City, various seas; the Nautilus and Cpt. Nemo must've been real then?

If we want to keep it abrahamic, the Koran mentions real people and real places too. The Koran must be true. You should become Muslim now.

 

[SystemShock]

I presented evidence. Your simple denials are useless.

You did not.

Speaking of the Exodus, if Dr. Hoffmeier is confirming it, he is downright lying. There is no physical evidence whatsoever than millions of people were walking in circles in a very small area (look at the map) for 40 years. And small area it is: a few years ago, a JW apostate walked from Egypt to Israel, and it took him 2 weeks, just following the coast.