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    I think this topic deserves its own thread, both to discuss generally the topic of government efficiency, and specifically the so-called 'Department of Government Efficiency' and the incoming Trump administration's aims to "dismantle Government Bureaucracy, slash excess regulations, cut wasteful expenditures and restructure Federal Agencies".

    The announcements have been covered in the The Trump Cabinet and key post thread, but to recap, Trump has announced that Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy will work together on a not-actually-an-official-government-Department of Government Efficiency, which is intended to work with the White House and Office of Management & Budget to "drive large scale structural reform, and create an entrepreneurial approach to Government never seen before," with the 'Department' to conclude its work "no later than July 4, 2026."

    Musk has previously said that the federal budget could be reduced by "at least $2 trillion", and Ramaswarmy, during his presidential campaign, said he would fire more than 75% of the federal work force and disband agencies including the Department of Education and the FBI.
     
    Cuts to the Environmental Protection Agencyare forcing it to curb much of its research work, leaving it with an abundance of lab animals — so it's holding an adoption drive.

    EPA staff at a research office in North Carolinahave launched an adoption campaign for their lab rats and zebrafish in response to cuts to its research projects introduced by the Donald Trump administration, according to the Wall Street Journal.

    A research and development official at the EPA said that scientists were having a difficult time obtaining supplies for even basic testing, which led to an oversupply of lab animals.

    The EPA has about 20,000 animals in its labs, including rabbits, mice, and rats. The animals are generally used to gauge the safety of environmental pollutants.

    For those interested in having their own rat or zebrafish, the animals are available at the EPA's Research Triangle complex in North Carolina, according to a report by the Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility.…….




     
    Cuts to the Environmental Protection Agencyare forcing it to curb much of its research work, leaving it with an abundance of lab animals — so it's holding an adoption drive.

    EPA staff at a research office in North Carolinahave launched an adoption campaign for their lab rats and zebrafish in response to cuts to its research projects introduced by the Donald Trump administration, according to the Wall Street Journal.

    A research and development official at the EPA said that scientists were having a difficult time obtaining supplies for even basic testing, which led to an oversupply of lab animals.

    The EPA has about 20,000 animals in its labs, including rabbits, mice, and rats. The animals are generally used to gauge the safety of environmental pollutants.

    For those interested in having their own rat or zebrafish, the animals are available at the EPA's Research Triangle complex in North Carolina, according to a report by the Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility.…….




    Hope they all get adopted and properly cared for.
     
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    Grok can't upload or access an image like this so I described what is in that image to it. Grok replied:

    Confirming the Screenshot’s Fabrication
    Your description of the screenshot—@ryjkyj’s post claiming I said, “yep, Trump and Elon killed those girls,” with my response, “not my exact words, but close enough,” followed by text about spending cuts, forecast warnings, and girls’ deaths, plus a grok.com link—aligns with a fabricated post. Here’s a concise recap of why it’s almost certainly fake, based on your input and the search results:
    1. Inconsistent Tone and Style:
      • The phrases “yep, Trump and Elon killed those girls” and “not my exact words, but close enough” don’t match my precise, evidence-based, and neutral communication style. I avoid sensational claims without data and wouldn’t use casual terms like “yep” or confirm a misquote with “close enough.”
      • I’d clarify misquotes (e.g., “I didn’t say that; please provide the exact query”) or request specifics (e.g., “Which event are you referring to?”).
      • The grok.com link likely mimics authenticity or drives traffic to a misleading site. While grok.com is my access point, its inclusion in a dubious screenshot suggests manipulation ().
     
    Grok can't upload or access an image like this so I described what is in that image to it. Grok replied:

    Confirming the Screenshot’s Fabrication
    Your description of the screenshot—@ryjkyj’s post claiming I said, “yep, Trump and Elon killed those girls,” with my response, “not my exact words, but close enough,” followed by text about spending cuts, forecast warnings, and girls’ deaths, plus a grok.com link—aligns with a fabricated post. Here’s a concise recap of why it’s almost certainly fake, based on your input and the search results:
    1. Inconsistent Tone and Style:
      • The phrases “yep, Trump and Elon killed those girls” and “not my exact words, but close enough” don’t match my precise, evidence-based, and neutral communication style. I avoid sensational claims without data and wouldn’t use casual terms like “yep” or confirm a misquote with “close enough.”
      • I’d clarify misquotes (e.g., “I didn’t say that; please provide the exact query”) or request specifics (e.g., “Which event are you referring to?”).
      • The grok.com link likely mimics authenticity or drives traffic to a misleading site. While grok.com is my access point, its inclusion in a dubious screenshot suggests manipulation ().

    One of the major differences between Grok and Chatgpt then. Chatgpt can handle images with text
     
    Grok is factually false 94% of the time. Grok is unreliable to use in any fact based conversation, so it should be completely ignored in a fact based conversation, except for sarcastic or satirical purposes.

    Quoting anything fact based from Grok is irresponsible and helps add to the disinformation of the internet "telephone" game.


    Quoting a Grok response in which it says that another Grok response is fake, is meta level absurdity. since Grok gives false answers 94% of the time. It's like asking Trump if Trump lies.
     
    Grok is factually false 94% of the time. Grok is unreliable to use in any fact based conversation, so it should be completely ignored in a fact based conversation, except for sarcastic or satirical purposes.

    Quoting anything fact based from Grok is irresponsible and helps add to the disinformation of the internet "telephone" game.


    Quoting a Grok response in which it says that another Grok response is fake, is meta level absurdity. since Grok gives false answers 94% of the time. It's like asking Trump if Trump lies.
    LA it sounds to me like you're factually false 94% of the time.

    In saying that I'm suggesting that you project much, 94% of the time much. I got your reasonable points connected with this, even agree with the reasonable of them, but this one is over the big top.

     
    LA it sounds to me like you're factually false 94% of the time.

    In saying that I'm suggesting that you project much, 94% of the time much. I got your reasonable points connected with this, even agree with the reasonable of them, but this one is over the big top.

    Did you not read this? I showed it to you yesterday in this post in your "How to Use AI" thread https://madaboutpolitics.com/threads/how-to-use-ai.358561/page-3#post-578446

    "A bombshell study by the Tow Center for Digital Journalism has exposed a major flaw in AI-powered search engines: they’re terrible at citing news accurately. After analyzing eight AI search platforms, researchers found that over sixty percent of responses contained incorrect or misleading citations. Some AI chatbots performed better than others—Perplexity had a 37% error rate—but Elon Musk’s Grok 3 was the worst offender, generating incorrect citations a staggering 94% of the time."​

     
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    Trump denied COVID was real, so he tried to "stop testing, because there's no new cases if you don't test."

    Trump denies climate change is causing an increase in severe weather, so he's trying to "stop tracking severe weather, because there's no severe weather if you aren't tracking it."

    Just wanted to add this reference from Trump's Project 2025 that shows they planned on dismantling NOAA and gives away their main reason for doing it. Remember when certain people on here told us Project 2025 had nothing to do with Trump and Trump wouldn't do any of it?

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