Federal criminal investigation Hunter Biden focuses on his business dealings (Update: DOJ appoints special counsel) (1 Viewer)

[SaintForLife]

Hunter Biden received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, the richest woman in Russia and the widow of Yury Luzhkov, the former mayor of Moscow, Senate Republicans revealed in their report on the younger Biden’s work in Ukraine.

Baturina is referenced in the 87-page report, which was released Wednesday, addressing her payment to Biden’s investment firm in early 2014.

“Baturina became Russia’s only female billionaire when her plastics company, Inteko, received a series of Moscow municipal contracts while her husband was mayor,” it said in providing background on the businesswoman.

The report described her involvement with Biden as “a financial relationship,” but declined to delve deeper into why the wire transfer was made.

The probe also found that Baturina sent 11 wires transfers between May and December 2015 to a bank account belonging to BAK USA, a tech startup that filed for bankruptcy in March 2019.

Nine of those 11 wire transfers were first sent to Rosemont Seneca Partners, the investment firm founded by Biden and Chris Heinz, stepson of former Secretary of State John Kerry, before being transferred to BAK USA.

Hunter Biden received $3.5M wire transfer from Russian billionaire: Senate report

Hunter Biden received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, the richest woman in Russia and the widow of Yury Luzhkov, the former mayor of Moscow, Senate Republicans revealed in their r…

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We all know their is massive corruption on both sides of the aisle. Here is an alleged allegation against Hunter Biden who was allegedly enriching himself because his Dad was Vice President.

 

[J-DONK]

Why? What does this have to do with Joe Biden?

Parents aren't responsible for the actions of their adult children.

It has everything to do with Joe. Hunter's business dealings for the most part are just foreign governments trying to gain influence with Joe. That's the optimistic view of things.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

I don't know why anyone is defending Hunter right now. After what dropped today, it's a whole lot more then tax evasion. The FBI has apparently been investigating this for years. This is just starting. This is a scandal that won't be going away anytime soon.

Also so much for "restoring the soul of the nation".

President-Elect Hunter Biden should just concede the election!!! Man, the DNC was just so foolish to back him as their nominee!

 

[JRad]

It has everything to do with Joe. Hunter's business dealings for the most part are just foreign governments trying to gain influence with Joe. That's the optimistic view of things.

Have they gained said influence? Absent any evidence the answer to that is yes, what Hunter does is irrelevant.

 

[J-DONK]

Boys, you got no reason to defend him now. You got a long, and wild ride in front of you. Let the FBI investigation finish, and enjoy your new version of whitewater.

There is no one to blame, but Hunter/Joe for this scandal.

 

[J-DONK]

President-Elect Hunter Biden should just concede the election!!! Man, the DNC was just so foolish to back him as their nominee!

I mean Democrats do need to let the gloves come off in the primaries. No one wanted to touch this issue, but I blame Bernie for that.

It would have been extremely helpful to know the FBI had been investigating Hunter since 2018 back in the primaries.

 

[efil4]

Boys, you got no reason to defend him now. You got a long, and wild ride in front of you. Let the FBI investigation finish, and enjoy your new version of whitewater.

There is no one to blame, but Hunter/Joe for this scandal.

why is it a "scandal" ? If dude didnt pay taxes, he gets busted and pays price like anyone else.

 

[J-DONK]

why is it a "scandal" ? If dude didnt pay taxes, he gets busted and pays price like anyone else.

The money laundering part of it came out today.

Federal criminal investigation into Hunter Biden focuses on his business dealings in China | CNN Politics

After going quiet in the months before the election, federal authorities are now actively investigating the business dealings of Hunter Biden, a person with knowledge of the probe said. His father, President-elect Joe Biden, is not implicated.

www.cnn.com

Investigators have been examining multiple financial issues, including whether Hunter Biden and his associates violated tax and money laundering laws in business dealings in foreign countries, principally China, according to two people briefed on the probe.

 

[coldseat]

I mean Democrats do need to let the gloves come off in the primaries. No one wanted to touch this issue, but I blame Bernie for that.

It would have been extremely helpful to know the FBI had been investigating Hunter since 2018 back in the primaries.

There is no proof or even indication that the FBI is looking into influence peddling or anything sketchy that Joe Biden may have done in connection with whatever is going on with Hunter Biden. Which we don't even know what "it" is.

Why is this Joe Biden's scandal?

With all of this serious crap that Joe Biden has to deal with right now, why should we care about what's going on here? Let the FBI do there investigation and file any charges that are warranted. Nobody is trying to stop it.

 

[J-DONK]

There is no proof or even indication that the FBI is looking into influence peddling or anything sketchy that Joe Biden may have done in connection with whatever is going on with Hunter Biden. Which we don't even know what "it" is.

Why is this Joe Biden's scandal?

With all of this serious crap that Joe Biden has to deal with right now, why should we care about what's going on here? Let the FBI do there investigation and file any charges that are warranted. Nobody is trying to stop it.

How did you feel about foreign dignitaries staying at Trump hotels to try and garner favor with Trump? Technically, those hotels were run by kids not in his administration. By your logic, that should have never been a scandal.

If Hunter Biden is indicted, that will hurt the Biden administration no matter how you try to spin it. I can guarantee Republicans will be talking about this non-stop.

Again, strap in. This is just starting.

 

[JRad]

How did you feel about foreign dignitaries staying at Trump hotels to try and garner favor with Trump? Technically, those hotels were run by kids not in his administration. By your logic, that should have never been a scandal.

If Hunter Biden is indicted, that will hurt the Biden administration no matter how you try to spin it. I can guarantee Republicans will be talking about this non-stop.

Again, strap in. This is just starting.

I don't think Trump has divested though, has he? I'm not sure that was ever really a scandal so much as a "come on really?" - but to be fair, I can't see Joe letting Hunter as close to White House dealings as the Trump kids (minus Tiffany and Barron) are. So it's hard to draw a direct comparison.

No, you're not wrong about the second part. But they're gonna kvetch about everything Hunter does anyway, so whatever.

 

[UncleTrvlingJim]

How did you feel about foreign dignitaries staying at Trump hotels to try and garner favor with Trump? Technically, those hotels were run by kids not in his administration. By your logic, that should have never been a scandal.

If Hunter Biden is indicted, that will hurt the Biden administration no matter how you try to spin it. I can guarantee Republicans will be talking about this non-stop.

Again, strap in. This is just starting.

Well, for one Trump himself owns the hotel, not his kids - so there's a direct payout there. Second, I don't really remember tons of articles or opinion pieces about the influence peddling going on through the hotel. Yeah, there were some, but it hardly made a ripple. Just like Jared Kushner's loan from Qatar barely made a ripple.

Ultimately it's only a scandal if it's shown that Biden gave undue consideration to some politician, businessman, or country b/c of his son's business dealings.

If people want to shut down access to politicians from lobbyists and so on, I'm all for it, but I think there's little political appetite for that from the Republicans.

 

[samiam5211]

It has everything to do with Joe. Hunter's business dealings for the most part are just foreign governments trying to gain influence with Joe. That's the optimistic view of things.

Oh I agree the only reason people were paying Hunter was to gain influence with Joe.

I’m sure Hunter Biden is guilty of dozens of crimes.

What does it have to do with Joe Biden?

 

[J-DONK]

Well, for one Trump himself owns the hotel, not his kids - so there's a direct payout there. Second, I don't really remember tons of articles or opinion pieces about the influence peddling going on through the hotel. Yeah, there were some, but it hardly made a ripple. Just like Jared Kushner's loan from Qatar barely made a ripple.

Ultimately it's only a scandal if it's shown that Biden gave undue consideration to some politician, businessman, or country b/c of his son's business dealings.

If people want to shut down access to politicians from lobbyists and so on, I'm all for it, but I think there's little political appetite for that from the Republicans.

You make a good point that it's a little different in the sense that Trump still owns all of his business thought they were not under his management. There was a ton of coverage during his presidency about this very issue, and also investigations in the house.

It's a scandal now. I don't know what anyone in this thread is arguing. It is on every single news outlet today about Hunter Biden's investigation. I picked it up from politico, and then read a cnn article about it.

I promise you Republicans will do a much better job keeping this investigation on the news.

 

[bdb13]

I haven't gone down the rabbit hole with this at all so I don't really know the story, but I'm all for removing Joe Biden from office if we find out he's very corrupt and/or guilty of crimes.

If it stops at Hunter Biden then I really don't give a shirt... But I think there's definitely a non-zero chance that Joe is more tied up in this than is being acknowledged.

We'll see.

 

[Saint by the Bay]

@J-DONK I think we are a little confused if you think it's a scandal because Joe did something wrong or you think it's a scandal because of the optics?

If it's the latter you're absolutely right, and we are going to have 4 years of Senate hearings and investigations, and probably a special counsel at some point.

The former is what I think most people are pushing back on. Even the article you linked said the DOJ source said Joe Biden isn't accused of any wrong doing.

 

[coldseat]

How did you feel about foreign dignitaries staying at Trump hotels to try and garner favor with Trump? Technically, those hotels were run by kids not in his administration. By your logic, that should have never been a scandal.

If Hunter Biden is indicted, that will hurt the Biden administration no matter how you try to spin it. I can guarantee Republicans will be talking about this non-stop.

Again, strap in. This is just starting.

The problem with the Trump hotels is that Trump himself retained stakes in the business, so he had a personal financial stake in foreign dignitaries staying there and could be personally influenced by it. The same with holding the G8 being at Mar-a-lago. It didn't have to do with his kids.

Republicans have been talking about it for at least a year now. They're also talking about a rigged election that wasn't rigged. Nothing will stop them from talking stupidity.

To me, this is a distraction that Joe Biden will easily avoid by not getting involved or talking about it. "Refer all questions to Hunter Biden's attorney. Hunter Biden is not a part of this administration." That's all that has to be said.

 

[efil4]

The money laundering part of it came out today.

Federal criminal investigation into Hunter Biden focuses on his business dealings in China | CNN Politics

After going quiet in the months before the election, federal authorities are now actively investigating the business dealings of Hunter Biden, a person with knowledge of the probe said. His father, President-elect Joe Biden, is not implicated.

www.cnn.com

Did Joe Biden launder money?

 

[Lapaz]

I haven't gone down the rabbit hole with this at all so I don't really know the story, but I'm all for removing Joe Biden from office if we find out he's very corrupt and/or guilty of crimes.

If it stops at Hunter Biden then I really don't give a shirt... But I think there's definitely a non-zero chance that Joe is more tied up in this than is being acknowledged.

We'll see.

If Joe suspects Hunter was doing something, but didn't report him, then I'm not going to condemn Joe. I have relatives that are doing illegal stuff, but I don't report them. I don't expect Joe to be an angel. Now if Joe committed crimes, then he should be impeached. I'll also wait on condemning Hunter, because I don't trust this Justice Department. I'll wait for courts to assess the evidence. His crimes may be minor, but the courts will adjudicate that. Joe needs to allow his Justice Department to judge the strength of the evidence, and prosecute if they deem it worthwhile, but that still needs to be proven in court.

By the way, if the Justice Department goes after Hunter, then it better do the same to Trump's kids, because they will undoubtedly continue to commit crimes which won't be covered by Donald's pardon.