Federal criminal investigation Hunter Biden focuses on his business dealings (Update: DOJ appoints special counsel) (2 Viewers)

[SaintForLife]

Hunter Biden received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, the richest woman in Russia and the widow of Yury Luzhkov, the former mayor of Moscow, Senate Republicans revealed in their report on the younger Biden’s work in Ukraine.

Baturina is referenced in the 87-page report, which was released Wednesday, addressing her payment to Biden’s investment firm in early 2014.

“Baturina became Russia’s only female billionaire when her plastics company, Inteko, received a series of Moscow municipal contracts while her husband was mayor,” it said in providing background on the businesswoman.

The report described her involvement with Biden as “a financial relationship,” but declined to delve deeper into why the wire transfer was made.

The probe also found that Baturina sent 11 wires transfers between May and December 2015 to a bank account belonging to BAK USA, a tech startup that filed for bankruptcy in March 2019.

Nine of those 11 wire transfers were first sent to Rosemont Seneca Partners, the investment firm founded by Biden and Chris Heinz, stepson of former Secretary of State John Kerry, before being transferred to BAK USA.

Hunter Biden received $3.5M wire transfer from Russian billionaire: Senate report

Hunter Biden received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, the richest woman in Russia and the widow of Yury Luzhkov, the former mayor of Moscow, Senate Republicans revealed in their r…

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We all know their is massive corruption on both sides of the aisle. Here is an alleged allegation against Hunter Biden who was allegedly enriching himself because his Dad was Vice President.

 

[SaintForLife]

Right, it was a policy they instituted in 2018 and then admitted it was wrong after being criticized for it.

There is no evidence the emails were hacked.

 

[SaintForLife]

Again, put up or shut up on claiming breathless reporting on the Steele Dossier. They sat on it for months, and then hardly posted anything for the next two months after Buzzfeed.

Show me that they posted more on the Steele Dossier than they are on the Biden laptop.

Are you really trying to claim that the media didn't do extensive reporting on the Steele Dossier? You want me to look up the articles for you? Can't you use Google on your own?

 

[RobF]

Are you really trying to claim that the media didn't do extensive reporting on the Steele Dossier? You want me to look up the articles for you? Can't you use Google on your own?

Well, let's have a look:

So, obviously, I'm not saying that's 100% correct, but that's my recollection and appears to be the recollection of others. So, I think if you wanted to prove me wrong, you'd have to show articles that do the following:

1. Date of knowledge of the Steele dossier
2. within a couple of days of Steele dossier knowledge - articles/stories from the media you are complaining about that sensationalize that dossier. Like headlines and so on saying something like "Bombshell report shows Trump may be compromised".

Do you have anything that shows differently?

Again, you are ignoring what I wrote. I am saying the media did NOT write extensively about the Steele dossier. I posted a timeline with articles I found, I did searches through the archives on all major media timelines, and they did NOT write about the Steele dossier. I then asked you to show me what you mean - like a link to an article written by the media you are complaining about between July 2016 and February 2017. Heck you can go longer if you want, but you are then really stretching it.

So, if you have other information, please post it, otherwise stop making that claim.

Again, if you have evidence that says otherwise please post it.

Show me an article written by "the media" between July 2016 and February 2017 about the Steele dossier.

Again, show me an article from say January or February of 2017 about the Steele Dossier that shows the media reported on the two stories differently. And remember, right now I can go to CNN and pull up an article talking about the Hunter Biden laptop.

Again, put up or shut up on claiming breathless reporting on the Steele Dossier. They sat on it for months, and then hardly posted anything for the next two months after Buzzfeed.

Show me that they posted more on the Steele Dossier than they are on the Biden laptop.

Well. It does appear that @UncleTrvlingJim has made a solid argument that the media didn't write extensively about the Steele dossier in the manner claimed, and while it is subtle, I am getting the impression that, yes, there does appear to be the odd request or two for you to post links to the appropriate articles if you're arguing otherwise.

So... are you going to?

 

[UncleTrvlingJim]

Are you really trying to claim that the media didn't do extensive reporting on the Steele Dossier? You want me to look up the articles for you? Can't you use Google on your own?

Yes, I'm saying I already did do a search. This is now the 4th time I'm saying I did a search and I don't see any reporting on the Steele Dossier in the month after Buzzfeed reported the details, which is 4 months after the media became aware of its existence, other than a couple of articles saying that it exists, and that the FBI had briefed Trump and Obama on it. None of them mention the specific allegations because they weren't verified.

If you are making a claim, it's up to you to provide the evidence.

 

[UncleTrvlingJim]

So... are you going to?

It doesn't appear that he is. I'm really not even trying to make a positive assertion, just questioning someone else's positive assertion. My recollection was there was never much reporting on the Steele dossier, during the election or even after Buzzfeed.

Later during the Mueller investigation and after, there were several articles talking about parts that were verified and the parts that were proven wrong and the parts that were neither verified nor disproven.

At this point in the news cycle I can find a lot more reporting about Biden's laptop than I can about the Steele Dossier.

 

[SaintForLife]

It doesn't appear that he is. I'm really not even trying to make a positive assertion, just questioning someone else's positive assertion. My recollection was there was never much reporting on the Steele dossier, during the election or even after Buzzfeed.

Later during the Mueller investigation and after, there were several articles talking about parts that were verified and the parts that were proven wrong and the parts that were neither verified nor disproven.

At this point in the news cycle I can find a lot more reporting about Biden's laptop than I can about the Steele Dossier.

OMG. I'm at work right now. You want me to post a bunch of the articles. That will take some time to look up. Give me some time and I will post those articles since you either had your head in the sand the last 4 years or you want to act like you did a good search when you only came up with a few articles.

 

[SaintForLife]

Well, let's have a look:









Well. It does appear that @UncleTrvlingJim has made a solid argument that the media didn't write extensively about the Steele dossier in the manner claimed, and while it is subtle, I am getting the impression that, yes, there does appear to be the odd request or two for you to post links to the appropriate articles if you're arguing otherwise.

So... are you going to?

His personal timeline makes no sense. I will post the articles when I have time.

 

[UncleTrvlingJim]

OMG. I'm at work right now. You want me to post a bunch of the articles. That will take some time to look up. Give me some time and I will post those articles since you either had your head in the sand the last 4 years or you want to act like you did a good search when you only came up with a few articles.

I made the request 7 days ago, you've posted a lot in the intervening days.

And again, I'm asking for you to post articles within the same window of time that we are now experiencing. The NY Post article came out two weeks ago.

The first report on the Steele Dossier came from Mother Jones on October 31st. Find me breathless stories about the Steele Dossier within the first 2 weeks of November.

Heck, I'd be interested in seeing a ton of breathless stories on the Steele Dossier in the two weeks after Buzzfeed's publishing of the details.

 

[UncleTrvlingJim]

His personal timeline makes no sense. I will post the articles when I have time.

What doesn't make sense?

The story was first known in the media in August and September of 2016. The first article came out on October 31st from Mother Jones. Then nothing until January 10th, when CNN posted an article that it exists and the FBI had it but they would not post the details about it. Then Buzzfeed posted the details. Then the media condemned Buzzfeed for publishing the details. And they still did not report on the details.

So, show me either that were other articles in between those dates that show breathless reporting about the Steele dossier, or something to show the blatant hypocrisy that you are complaining about.

 

[MT15]

SFL, it’s a really good trait to realize when you’re wrong and admit it. It would appear there really hasn’t been a double standard about reporting between the two like you have repeatedly said. My advice would be to cut your losses and admit your mistake.

Also, when the person you point to as a credible source is Tucker Carlson () it doesn’t help your cause to turn around and try to “both sides” the issue by pointing out someone that nobody in this thread has used as a source. This much should have been obvious to you.

 

[Ayo]

Again, put up or shut up

he will do neither

 

[Foreign National]

SFL, it’s a really good trait to realize when you’re wrong and admit it. It would appear there really hasn’t been a double standard about reporting between the two like you have repeatedly said. My advice would be to cut your losses and admit your mistake.

This is usually good advice but I would really like to see this play out. It is interesting and entertaining all at the same time.

 

[Ayo]

Greenwald is trying to get in on some of thst sweet Tim Pool money.

nothing gets the Trumpsters more excited than a reformed liberal. It’s great branding. Marketing 101.

Problem is Pool is months ahead. If not years. GG has to cash in now and hype that substack account before the election in the event trump loses.

reformed leftist who has come around to supporting trump is straight cash, homey

I have no doubt that most anyone else here could run the same grift

problem is, we have those pesky morals and that fly in the ointment we call integrity

Poolboy and GG are encumbered by neither

 

[UncleTrvlingJim]

I've now searched

This is usually good advice but I would really like to see this play out. It is interesting and entertaining all at the same time.

Again, I'm open to being proven wrong. The Hunter Biden story has been out for 2 weeks, and I can find a few articles on CNN, NY Times, and Washington Post about it, mostly talking about how they are unproven allegations that detail Hunter Biden's potential business dealings.

The Steele Dossier was known about for 2 months before the first story was published in Mother Jones. And then nothing again for another 7 weeks, and then CNN reported on it because they had a story that the FBI briefed Trump and Obama on it but they wouldn't publish the details because they weren't verified. Then Buzzfeed. Then a couple more articles that again say that it exists and that the FBI has it.

Because again, remember, the FBI hadn't even confirmed that there was an investigation into the Trump campaing and Russia at this point.

So, I really hope that @SaintForLife isn't complaining that there aren't as many stories in the past 2 weeks about the Biden laptop as there were about the Steele Dossier over the past 4 years.

 

[Saint by the Bay]

I’m curious what you guys think is the real reason Tucker is backing off the Biden story. I don’t believe it’s because he suddenly found Jesus and discovered compassion and empathy. Tucker has no soul. So what’s the real reason?

Trump also isn’t hammering it as much. I think the FBI or DOJ knows something and they have told the Trump team, which means FOX News also knows. It’s starting to feel like folks are trying not to look like complete fools.

Tucker Carlson’s Hunter Biden Crusade Takes an Unusual Turn

After claiming a UPS package of bombshell Hunter Biden documents went missing, the Fox News host seemed to back off Thursday. “Pounding on a man, jumping on, piling on when he’s already down is something that we don’t want to be involved in,” he said.

www.vanityfair.com

 

[Taurus]

I’m curious what you guys think is the real reason Tucker is backing off the Biden story. I don’t believe it’s because he suddenly found Jesus and discovered compassion and empathy. Tucker has no soul. So what’s the real reason?

Trump also isn’t hammering it as much. I think the FBI or DOJ knows something and they have told the Trump team, which means FOX News also knows. It’s starting to feel like folks are trying not to look like complete fools.

Tucker Carlson’s Hunter Biden Crusade Takes an Unusual Turn

After claiming a UPS package of bombshell Hunter Biden documents went missing, the Fox News host seemed to back off Thursday. “Pounding on a man, jumping on, piling on when he’s already down is something that we don’t want to be involved in,” he said.

www.vanityfair.com

The last bit of that tease is so classically GOP projection.

"We don't want to pile on..." Which explains why they're twisted into knots in the attempt to portray Trump as a sane, rational human being.

 

[GrandAdmiral]

I’m curious what you guys think is the real reason Tucker is backing off the Biden story. I don’t believe it’s because he suddenly found Jesus and discovered compassion and empathy. Tucker has no soul. So what’s the real reason?

Trump also isn’t hammering it as much. I think the FBI or DOJ knows something and they have told the Trump team, which means FOX News also knows. It’s starting to feel like folks are trying not to look like complete fools.

Tucker Carlson’s Hunter Biden Crusade Takes an Unusual Turn

After claiming a UPS package of bombshell Hunter Biden documents went missing, the Fox News host seemed to back off Thursday. “Pounding on a man, jumping on, piling on when he’s already down is something that we don’t want to be involved in,” he said.

www.vanityfair.com

I'm sorry. Dude would need armed security to protect him from me, talking about my child like that.

 

[Sandman]

His personal timeline makes no sense. I will post the articles when I have time.

Will this be like the Trump healthcare plan that we will see in...."two weeks"?