Federal criminal investigation Hunter Biden focuses on his business dealings (Update: DOJ appoints special counsel) (5 Viewers)

[SaintForLife]

Hunter Biden received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, the richest woman in Russia and the widow of Yury Luzhkov, the former mayor of Moscow, Senate Republicans revealed in their report on the younger Biden’s work in Ukraine.

Baturina is referenced in the 87-page report, which was released Wednesday, addressing her payment to Biden’s investment firm in early 2014.

“Baturina became Russia’s only female billionaire when her plastics company, Inteko, received a series of Moscow municipal contracts while her husband was mayor,” it said in providing background on the businesswoman.

The report described her involvement with Biden as “a financial relationship,” but declined to delve deeper into why the wire transfer was made.

The probe also found that Baturina sent 11 wires transfers between May and December 2015 to a bank account belonging to BAK USA, a tech startup that filed for bankruptcy in March 2019.

Nine of those 11 wire transfers were first sent to Rosemont Seneca Partners, the investment firm founded by Biden and Chris Heinz, stepson of former Secretary of State John Kerry, before being transferred to BAK USA.

Hunter Biden received $3.5M wire transfer from Russian billionaire: Senate report

Hunter Biden received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, the richest woman in Russia and the widow of Yury Luzhkov, the former mayor of Moscow, Senate Republicans revealed in their r…

nypost.com

We all know their is massive corruption on both sides of the aisle. Here is an alleged allegation against Hunter Biden who was allegedly enriching himself because his Dad was Vice President.

 

[SaintForLife]

Why US dropping charges against Russians named by Mueller report

On Monday, the Justice Department moved to drop charges made against Russian companies who worked to sway Americans in the 2016 presidential election. It said there would be no prospect of meaningful punishment if convicted.

www.csmonitor.com

the DoJ ( current DoJ mind you ) dropped it. It wanst dropped for lack of evidence.

So if that is what your question insinuates, its already a false premise.

Prosecutors said they concluded that a trial, against a corporate defendant with no presence in the United States and no prospect of meaningful punishment even if convicted, would likely expose sensitive law enforcement tools and techniques, "potentially undermining their effectiveness."

How convenient. Translation: We didn’t have evidence strong enough to hold up in court.

 

[Taurus]

Why would someone who lives in California drop off a laptop for repairs in Delaware? There's a ton of computer repair places in Cali.

That said, this is "Billy Beer" in the time of social media, if Billy Beer didn't actually exist.

A: I'll believe this is even a real thing once the relevant IC entities do their investigations and say that it is.
B: It's about Hunter Biden, who, one presumes, won't be given a Cabinet-level position of power in his dad's Administration. Unlike the felons currently assisting Pops McTinyhands.

 

[wardorican]

I said earlier it was fine to be skeptical of the story.

Federal criminal investigation Hunter Biden focuses on his business dealings (Update: DOJ appoints special counsel)

Hunter Biden received a $3.5 million wire transfer from Elena Baturina, the richest woman in Russia and the widow of Yury Luzhkov, the former mayor of Moscow, Senate Republicans revealed in their report on the younger Biden’s work in Ukraine.Baturina is referenced in the 87-page report, which...

madaboutpolitics.com

The right is trying to damage Biden's chances in the election just like Hillary when her campaign started the rumor that Trump colluded with Russia before the 2016 election.

What's ironic is that I've been mocked repeatedly for the same type of skepticism that people are engaging in this thread.

I'm sure a response would something like: But Trump is a horrible person so we just assume whatever story about Trump is true because it fits his character! If it's about Biden then we must assume it's not true!

You still have people who believe in the BS conspiracy theory about the pee tape despite there being ZERO evidence for it(it fits with Trump's character!) But it's the right wingers that believe all the conspiracy theories!

Knowing our histories, I'm not sure I'd call it "the same" type of skepticism.

And, I'd humbly suggest you get a thicker skin, if the primary driver is that you were mocked.

No one is assuming things aren't true just because it's Biden. It's because the type of stuff doesn't fit what we know about him.

 

[FullMonte]

Wait, someone has to have a prior relationship with a store to visit that store? He lived in California at the time, but was from Delaware. Are you claiming it's not possible that he ever flew to Delaware? Was he on house arrest in California or was there another reason that prevented him from leaving the state? How many crackheads do you know that would even remember what they did the night before? What if Hunter didn't recognize the call? How many calls do you answer from numbers that aren't stored in your contacts in your phone.

Sure, it's possible that he flew to Delaware. But, again, why would he leave his computer full of compromised information with some hole in the wall shop in Delaware. Why didn't he bring it to a location near his house? Why didn't he bring it to an actual Apple store? And of course it's possible that he didn't answer calls from an unknown number. But, then we are forced to believe that the shop owner never left a voicemail saying "Hey, come get your laptop(s) so I can get paid." Was he high for three whole months and that's why he didn't bother to check the voicemails? And again...why no password? A man who has been dragged through the mud for a few years now, who has contacts and communications with the Vice President of the United States, probably other people who were high level executives at various companies that he owned and/or worked for/with, pictures/videos of him doing drugs, and now allegedly child pornography on his computers....is walking around with those computers not even having the most basic security activated?

 

[SaintForLife]

Sure, it's possible that he flew to Delaware. But, again, why would he leave his computer full of compromised information with some hole in the wall shop in Delaware. Why didn't he bring it to a location near his house? Why didn't he bring it to an actual Apple store? And of course it's possible that he didn't answer calls from an unknown number. But, then we are forced to believe that the shop owner never left a voicemail saying "Hey, come get your laptop(s) so I can get paid." Was he high for three whole months and that's why he didn't bother to check the voicemails? And again...why no password? A man who has been dragged through the mud for a few years now, who has contacts and communications with the Vice President of the United States, probably other people who were high level executives at various companies that he owned and/or worked for/with, pictures/videos of him doing drugs, and now allegedly child pornography on his computers....is walking around with those computers not even having the most basic security activated?

The media could actually ask him those things and clear everything up right? But we know why they won't.

 

[UriUT]

Sure, it's possible that he flew to Delaware. But, again, why would he leave his computer full of compromised information with some hole in the wall shop in Delaware. Why didn't he bring it to a location near his house? Why didn't he bring it to an actual Apple store? And of course it's possible that he didn't answer calls from an unknown number. But, then we are forced to believe that the shop owner never left a voicemail saying "Hey, come get your laptop(s) so I can get paid." Was he high for three whole months and that's why he didn't bother to check the voicemails? And again...why no password? A man who has been dragged through the mud for a few years now, who has contacts and communications with the Vice President of the United States, probably other people who were high level executives at various companies that he owned and/or worked for/with, pictures/videos of him doing drugs, and now allegedly child pornography on his computers....is walking around with those computers not even having the most basic security activated?

Common! He has money to burn. Didn’t you see the emails on that pc? He s milking China, Ukraine and who knows where else. He flies where he wants. He posts to MAP if he s on the lift if he wants. Maybe he was on his dexamethazone binge and wanted that high. Delaware is where he can get that. in California, one can get those medicinal stuff. But in Delaware, you get the really good stuff. Dexa babie!

 

[efil4]

Prosecutors said they concluded that a trial, against a corporate defendant with no presence in the United States and no prospect of meaningful punishment even if convicted, would likely expose sensitive law enforcement tools and techniques, "potentially undermining their effectiveness."

How convenient. Translation: We didn’t have evidence strong enough to hold up in court.

Thats YOUR translation. ( and so neatly fits YOUR narrative- what a coinkydink )

Translation based on what? The DoJ would have NO issue telling all we dont have enough.

What they are telling you is thru discovery, the techniques would be divulged, and based on the punishment, it didnt warrant giving up those techniques to get a slap on wrist.

 

[Dragon]

The media could actually ask him those things and clear everything up right? But we know why they won't.

So you say the if f.ex. someone makes up a complete false story about you going to another state and paint a city hall violet, you should answer questions about why you chose such an very visual color rather than something that was harder to see ?

If someone makes up a story and the only answer to every question is "I did not" why even go there?

 

[FullMonte]

The media could actually ask him those things and clear everything up right? But we know why they won't.

You're right, I don't expect the media to dig into that. What I'm so much more concerned with right now is why the FBI had a laptop containing child pornography for a year and didn't arrest the owner of that laptop. I'm sure you also have an idea of why they didn't arrest Hunter Biden when they had that ironclad proof of his guilt of that horrible crime....right?

 

[SaintForLife]

Knowing our histories, I'm not sure I'd call it "the same" type of skepticism.

And, I'd humbly suggest you get a thicker skin, if the primary driver is that you were mocked.

No one is assuming things aren't true just because it's Biden. It's because the type of stuff doesn't fit what we know about him.

If I didn't have thick skin I wouldn't be posting here anymore. That wasn't the primary driver.

Your answer about Biden is exactly what I talked about with Trump. People normally believe any story about Trump because it fits with his character. Whoever it is, it's best to make that determination based on the facts or evidence.

 

[efil4]

So you say the if f.ex. someone makes up a complete false story about you going to another state and paint a city hall violet, you should answer questions about why you chose such an very visual color rather than something that was harder to see ?

If someone makes up a story and the only answer to every question is "I did not" why even go there?

They NEED him to go there. OTherwise, this allegation falls flat and out the cycle.

so this is all a ploy to egg him on to do so. They MUST have him say SOMETHING OTHER THAN "i did not" so they can dissect and point to made-up inconsistencies and keep the cycle going.

Thats how a rumor mill works. He is full on mill worker.

 

[SaintForLife]

Thats YOUR translation. ( and so neatly fits YOUR narrative- what a coinkydink )

Translation based on what? The DoJ would have NO issue telling all we dont have enough.

What they are telling you is thru discovery, the techniques would be divulged, and based on the punishment, it didnt warrant giving up those techniques to get a slap on wrist.

It fits with the whole Russiagate narrative. Every indictment and with the Mueller report the media and the Democrats claimed that the real damaging information was actually behind the redactions.

Why would Mueller indict those Russians if he never intended to prosecute the case?

 

[SaintForLife]

So you say the if f.ex. someone makes up a complete false story about you going to another state and paint a city hall violet, you should answer questions about why you chose such an very visual color rather than something that was harder to see ?

If someone makes up a story and the only answer to every question is "I did not" why even go there?

Your hypothetical is irrelevant. Hunter is the son of possibly the next president. Does the public deserve to know if Hunter and/or Joe were enriching themselves while Joe was Vice President?

 

[FullMonte]

Your hypothetical is irrelevant. Hunter is the son of possibly the next president. Does the public deserve to know if Hunter and/or Joe were enriching themselves while Joe was Vice President?

Well....if you believe that, do you also believe that the American people deserve to know if Trump and his family are enriching themselves while Donald is President?

 

[efil4]

Your hypothetical is irrelevant. Hunter is the son of possibly the next president. Does the public deserve to know if Hunter and/or Joe were enriching themselves while Joe was Vice President?

Nope.

Just as the public was not deserving to know of Trumps debt obligations, his Moscow deal, his Chinese bank account, his shell companies that funneled money into his campaign, etc etc.

so the short answer is no.

But complain away. Amazing how 180 yall are from 4 short years ago.

 

[MT15]

So now, on Twitter, a person who is said to be the Vice President of the Democrats in Indiana society (assuming it’s a college club) has posted text messages where he tricked Rudy into thinking he was Ivanka. You just cannot make this stuff up. Caveat, I don’t know if this is real or not, but it’s funny.

 

[efil4]

It fits with the whole Russiagate narrative. Every indictment and with the Mueller report the media and the Democrats claimed that the real damaging information was actually behind the redactions.

Why would Mueller indict those Russians if he never intended to prosecute the case?

your narrative -

ask the DoJ. They made the decision. And from all reports, it wasnt on "lack of evidence" - Because they CANT say that. Unmask the report and they would be dead to rights lying.

But keep flailing away. Im not gonna stop you.

 

[DaveXA]

So now, on Twitter, a person who is said to be the Vice President of the Democrats in Indiana society (assuming it’s a college club) has posted text messages where he tricked Rudy into thinking he was Ivanka. You just cannot make this stuff up.

Oh I don't know. While I'm not familiar with this story, people make up weird shirt and bogus stories all the time. That's hardly new.