Epstein and Trump (4 Viewers)

[MT15]

I figured we may as well have a separate thread. I’m thinking this story should be looked at with more scrutiny.

Here is an affidavit from a person who witnessed Trump having sex with a 13 yo girl at Epstein’s NY home. Her identity was sealed from the public. These women and girls who came forward were receiving credible death threats as I understand it.

 

[LA 2 L.A.]

The influences see this as a chance to gain more followers than their competitors. They don't have the discipline or the desire to not descend on the story like starving piranha. I think the feeding frenzy will grow.

 

[coldseat]

The influences see this as a chance to gain more followers than their competitors. They don't have the discipline or the desire to not descend on the story like starving piranha. I think the feeding frenzy will grow.

Let's hope. Of all the things that could have and should have taken down Trump and the MAGA movement, this would probably be the most fitting. They (i.e. Republicans) invested so heavily in the architecture of propaganda, false accusations and outrage to brainwash the public and keep themselves in power. For that monster to turn around and feed on the host with a pedofile conspiracy cover-up that has Trump all over it would be karma coming full circle. For Trump to be remembered as the pedofile president is what we need to move forward as a nation that way no one will want to associate with MAGA.

 

[Saint Jack]

Let's hope. Of all the things that could have and should have taken down Trump and the MAGA movement, this would probably be the most fitting. They (i.e. Republicans) invested so heavily in the architecture of propaganda, false accusations and outrage to brainwash the public and keep themselves in power. For that monster to turn around and feed on the host with a pedofile conspiracy cover-up that has Trump all over it would be karma coming full circle. For Trump to be remembered as the pedofile president is what we need to move forward as a nation that way no one will want to associate with MAGA.

Epstein is gonna do damage to the Republicans long after Trump’s presidency is done.

 

[superchuck500]

This is wild that he’s acting like this - it screams guilt!

 

[UncleTrvlingJim]

I find some of the hard core MAGA's reaction to this perplexing. I had assumed they'd just brush it aside like everything else -- I mean we already know Trump hung out with Epstein. We've already seen his name on the fight logs. We already know that Epstein had considered Trump a friend. Trump has already been found liable for rape. He's talked gleefully about walking into the dressing room of Ms Teen USA beauty pageants. None of that bothered them, I didn't expect this would either.

For the record, I don't think there's much in the Epstein files... as in I don't think there's anything that would be considered evidence for a criminal indictment. I think it's more stuff that would be very embarrasing to some rich and connected people who we can speculate might have done stuff, but not enough to indict. And yes, probably Trump, Clinton, Prince Andrew, and lots of other rich and famous people will be in there.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

This is wild that he’s acting like this - it screams guilt!

He had Epstein killed, right? If I'm being honest, I really didn't care about this story at all, he has made this something that will not go away!

 

[MT15]

I find some of the hard core MAGA's reaction to this perplexing. I had assumed they'd just brush it aside like everything else -- I mean we already know Trump hung out with Epstein. We've already seen his name on the fight logs. We already know that Epstein had considered Trump a friend. Trump has already been found liable for rape. He's talked gleefully about walking into the dressing room of Ms Teen USA beauty pageants. None of that bothered them, I didn't expect this would either.

For the record, I don't think there's much in the Epstein files... as in I don't think there's anything that would be considered evidence for a criminal indictment. I think it's more stuff that would be very embarrasing to some rich and connected people who we can speculate might have done stuff, but not enough to indict. And yes, probably Trump, Clinton, Prince Andrew, and lots of other rich and famous people will be in there.

I think MAGA was clinging to the narrative that yeah, Trump knew Epstein and they even hung out together, but as soon as he found out what Epstein was doing he had him banned from Mar-A-Lago and quit being friends with him.

So there’s no reason for Trump to be hiding anything, right? The fact that he is obviously hiding something and freaking out about it every day has possibly broken through to them.

There must be enough of something there for Trump to freak out. Here’s hoping what these rich powerful men did to these girls finally comes to light.

 

[superchuck500]

I find some of the hard core MAGA's reaction to this perplexing. I had assumed they'd just brush it aside like everything else -- I mean we already know Trump hung out with Epstein. We've already seen his name on the fight logs. We already know that Epstein had considered Trump a friend. Trump has already been found liable for rape. He's talked gleefully about walking into the dressing room of Ms Teen USA beauty pageants. None of that bothered them, I didn't expect this would either.

For the record, I don't think there's much in the Epstein files... as in I don't think there's anything that would be considered evidence for a criminal indictment. I think it's more stuff that would be very embarrasing to some rich and connected people who we can speculate might have done stuff, but not enough to indict. And yes, probably Trump, Clinton, Prince Andrew, and lots of other rich and famous people will be in there.

I think the right-wing ecosystem spun the Epstein case into their narrative that there's a deep-state/elite conspiracy that overlaps with the Democrat pedophile conspiracy and Epstein's death was another in the "Clinton body count" . . . but this one has a file and evidence and jail-cell video, so they grew eager to see the veil finally pulled back and the guilty held accountable. In their view, Trump was always a crusader against this conspiracy - though against evidence, they believed it and he and his cronies cultivated it. And Trump returning to the White House made them giddy about the prospect of all of this coming to light and their beliefs being vindicated.

I think it's a bit of a shock to them that Trump is not only refusing to make the information public, but is now taking this wholly unbelievable view (even for them) that it's somehow a hoax perpetrated by the Clintons. It just doesn't make sense and while some of them are willing to just march on their orders, others are having a real hard time reconciling it.

 

[MT15]

Also, the lack of response to this from legacy media is pretty damning.

 

[UncleTrvlingJim]

I think the right-wing ecosystem spun the Epstein case into their narrative that there's a deep-state/elite conspiracy that overlaps with the Democrat pedophile conspiracy and Epstein's death was another in the "Clinton body count" . . . but this one has a file and evidence and jail-cell video, so they grew eager to see the veil finally pulled back and the guilty held accountable. In their view, Trump was always a crusader against this conspiracy - though against evidence, they believed it and he and his cronies cultivated it. And Trump returning to the White House made them giddy about the prospect of all of this coming to light and their beliefs being vindicated.

I think it's a bit of a shock to them that Trump is not only refusing to make the information public, but is now taking this wholly unbelievable view (even for them) that it's somehow a hoax perpetrated by the Clintons. It just doesn't make sense and while some of them are willing to just march on their orders, others are having a real hard time reconciling it.

Yeah, I think that's all probably true, but man, I know information bubbles are strong, but you'd have to really twist yourself in knots to think that Trump was the right person for that issue.

 

[efil4]

This is wild that he’s acting like this - it screams guilt!

Every statement is a confession

The "conned for 8 years" - what a Freudian Slip.

 

[Eeyore]

I didn't see him being involved, much less implicating himself.

 

[Eeyore]

 

[Eeyore]

The only that people are going to stop talking about this is for him to get involved in either Ukraine or Iran/Israel.
Edit: I guess that I should have added Syria to the list

 

[Optimus Prime]

Definitely a “Methinks the lady doth protest too much” going on

 

[Optimus Prime]

Rep. Lauren Boebert wants failed Attorney General nominee Matt Gaetz to lead a special counsel investigation into the Epstein files.

The Colorado Republican suggested the former congressman was an appropriate figure to deliver the “truth” surrounding Jeffrey Epstein’s death, including his “client list,” which MAGA has been up and arms about after the Department of Justice and FBI said they found no credible evidence it exists.

Epstein died by suicide in his prison cell on August 10, 2019, and has long been the subject of conspiracy theories that he kept a secret list of famous and powerful people to whom he trafficked underage girls for sex.

MAGA is deeply unhappy over the Trump administration’s handling of the case.

“There has to be a special investigation into this if we aren’t going to be provided information,” Boebert said Tuesday on The Benny Show. “I want answers and maybe that takes that special counsel to do so. Maybe Matt Gaetz can lead the special counsel.”

Gaetz, 43, was President Donald Trump’s first pick for attorney general but his nomination was derailed over allegations that he paid for sex, including with a 17-year-old girl. Gaetz, who denies any wrongdoing, withdrew from the nomination in mid-November after the uproar, but a bombshell House Ethics Committee report published in December detailed his alleged sexual misconduct and illicit drug use while he was in Congress..............

Boebert wants Matt Gaetz to lead special counsel investigation into Epstein files

Lauren Bobert suggested that Matt Gaetz was an appropriate figure to deliver the ‘truth’ about Jeffrey Epstein

www.the-independent.com

 

[MT15]

“It takes a thief” energy going on here, Bobo.

 

[MT15]

Every time he responds, he digs a deeper hole. The post is funny.