Epstein and Trump (10 Viewers)

[MT15]

I figured we may as well have a separate thread. I’m thinking this story should be looked at with more scrutiny.

Here is an affidavit from a person who witnessed Trump having sex with a 13 yo girl at Epstein’s NY home. Her identity was sealed from the public. These women and girls who came forward were receiving credible death threats as I understand it.

 

[Sendai]

What do you think happened on that flight?

It was enough to disturb Kevin Spacey. I wonder if it disturbed Clinton.

My question was did Clinton testify about the girls on the plane trip to Africa. Or did he conveniently forget.

 

[Maxp]

It was enough to disturb Kevin Spacey. I wonder if it disturbed Clinton.

My question was did Clinton testify about the girls on the plane trip to Africa. Or did he conveniently forget.

Laughable, did it disturb him while he was doing the same to boys? Burn them all

 

[bird]

It was enough to disturb Kevin Spacey. I wonder if it disturbed Clinton.

My question was did Clinton testify about the girls on the plane trip to Africa. Or did he conveniently forget.

We know it didn’t disturb Trump.

 

[MT15]

It was enough to disturb Kevin Spacey. I wonder if it disturbed Clinton.

My question was did Clinton testify about the girls on the plane trip to Africa. Or did he conveniently forget.

So, you’re taking Spacey at his word about this? A known abuser?

I don’t care if Clinton goes to jail, in fact if it can be established that he did anything with young kids I would hope he goes to jail. But this is like taking Maxwell at her word when she says Trump did nothing wrong in exchange for her movement to a cushy prison camp.

It seems that the flights Spacey is talking about were a humanitarian mission to Africa and included a lot of people who worked in humanitarian causes. This is the only mention I have heard that young girls were even present. Were they really there? A lot more people than Spacey would have also known if so.

Are all the people on that trip now complicit? This isn’t exactly proof of anything - the word of one sick person with a history of abuse.

 

[Taurus]

Laughable, did it disturb him while he was doing the same to boys? Burn them all

It's that easy. If the Clintons are lying, add perjury to the charges. To do that, of course, you have to have a thorough investigation. Unredacted. Maybe that's why such savvy operators would lie? They know they can't be convicted of anything Epstein-related without burning a LOT of people right alongside them.

 

[LA 2 L.A.]

Full on debate brain.

Full on projection by you to avoid and deflect from the valid points that I made. It's a typical response when someone realizes that someone raised a valid point that challenges their beliefs.

I believe everything I say. I don't just argue for the sake of argument.

 

[samiam5211]

Full on projection by you to avoid and deflect from the valid points that I made. It's a typical response when someone realizes that someone raised a valid point that challenges their beliefs.

I believe everything I say. I don't just argue for the sake of argument.

How is it valid?

Please explain the point you are making, and how it relates to the topic.

You act like the way I phrased my obvious opinion matters.

No human would take what I said as anything but my opinion.

It’s debate brain.

You are trying to avoid having to say you think they are telling the truth.

 

[TampaJoe]

How is it valid?

Please explain the point you are making, and how it relates to the topic.

You act like the way I phrased my obvious opinion matters.

No human would take what I said as anything but my opinion.

It’s debate brain.

You are trying to avoid having to say you think they are telling the truth.

You are 100 percent correct. The very people who insist that their opinions are “facts” because they are based on a few “facts” are now lecturing folks on the difference.

I assume that everything I read on an anonymous message board is opinion because 90 percent of it is just that. Opinion. Nothing wrong with opinions. Most normal conversations are full of opinions. It should go without saying. But some folks are too dense to pick up on the difference between actual facts and opinions.

That’s my opinion.

 

[LA 2 L.A.]

Please explain the point you are making, and how it relates to the topic.

I already did and it's very clear.

You are trying to avoid having to say you think they are telling the truth.

You once again don't know what you think you know. I have no idea if they are or are not telling the truth or not, and what I said had nothing to do with whether or not they are telling the truth. I simply pointed out that Hilary wouldn't lie under oath with the Republicans in charge unless she felt confident that there was nothing the Republicans could do about it.

You never once ask me if I thought if Hilary or Bill are telling the truth. Instead, you mistakenly assumed I think they are telling the truth.

 

[LA 2 L.A.]

You are 100 percent correct. The very people who insist that their opinions are “facts” because they are based on a few “facts” are now lecturing folks on the difference.

I assume that everything I read on an anonymous message board is opinion because 90 percent of it is just that. Opinion. Nothing wrong with opinions. Most normal conversations are full of opinions. It should go without saying. But some folks are too dense to pick up on the difference between actual facts and opinions.

That’s my opinion.

This line of thinking is a direct result of the intentional sabotaging of public education.

Too many people don't understand that opinions and facts are stated differently.

"John is lying" is a statement of fact, not opinion.

"It seems, I think, or I believe John is lying" are statements of opinion.

Yes, we all sometimes make the mistake of using the language of facts when stating an opinion, but we own it when it's pointed out to us. We don't pitch a childish tantrum about it and pretend that there is no difference between a statement of opinion and a statement of fact, or that "everyone should know what I mean."

 

[samiam5211]

I already did and it's very clear.


You once again don't know what you think you know. I have no idea if they are or are not telling the truth or not, and what I said had nothing to do with whether or not they are telling the truth. I simply pointed out that Hilary wouldn't lie under oath with the Republicans in charge unless she felt confident that there was nothing the Republicans could do about it.

You never once ask me if I thought if Hilary or Bill are telling the truth. Instead, you mistakenly assumed I think they are telling the truth.

It must suck going through life having no idea whether or not anyone is telling the truth without hard evidence.

 

[LA 2 L.A.]

It must suck going through life having no idea whether or not anyone is telling the truth without hard evidence.

Not nearly as much as it would if I went through life thinking I know things I don't and can't actually know. Your attitude is a big part of the big problem we are having in our society.

You know I've made valid points and you just keep making snide, personal remarks to avoid and deflect from the valid points I've made. You will no doubt do it yet again. It's all you've got.

 

[MT15]

Nothing wrong with opinions.

Lololol. Except if you don’t like the opinion. Then you whine about it.

 

[TampaJoe]

It must suck going through life having no idea whether or not anyone is telling the truth without hard evidence.

It is a standard he applies very selectively. To everybody else.

BTW, In case one gets easily confused. That may sound like a fact but anyone with a lick of sense knows it is opinion.

 

[MT15]

Yeah, we really need to hear more about opinions from Joe here. Lololol

Back on topic:

They need to immediately add Melania to this list, and Trump as well.

 

[samiam5211]

It is a standard he applies very selectively. To everybody else.

BTW, In case one gets easily confused. That may sound like a fact but anyone with a lick of sense knows it is opinion.

He’s not the only one.

If you don’t think Donald Trump is far more guilty than any Clinton, then we aren’t on the same team.

Trump is as guilty as Epstein and Wexner..

 

[TampaJoe]

He’s not the only one.

If you don’t think Donald Trump is far more guilty than any Clinton, then we aren’t on the same team.

Trump is as guilty as Epstein and Wexner..

Team? What team? I didn’t know we had to choose a team.

I speak for myself Sam. I don’t join teams. That is what being independent is all about. It means Incan agree with you on this point and disagree with you on the other. It means each of us can come to our own conclusion about an issue.

Trump may be guilty as hell. I dunno. That’s what investigations are for. To me this whole Epstein issue should have been investigated by special counsel independent of the administration and either political party. I wouldn’t release the names of people unless they were being charged with a crime. That is consistent with how we normally handle such matters.

If we were still capable of such things then we all could begin to trust a little more in our government institutions. All this has done is make this all more political.

Another opinion.

 

[LA 2 L.A.]

It is a standard he applies very selectively. To everybody else.

The above is a lie. It's not an opinion.

I challenge @TampaJoe to quote a single example of the false claim he's making. No one should hold their breath waiting for them to quote an example.