Cuba (1 Viewer)

[superchuck500]

Trump's Cuba policy and the reactions to it have been quietly simmering for some time now, but things seem to be accelerating. But in typical Trump fashion, it isn't clear what the administration's objective is.

- January 2025- Trump back in office and announces new package of sanctions against Cuba.
- July 2025 - Trump enhances the Cuba travel ban with heightened enforcement.
- January 29/30, 2026 - Trump announces embargo of Cuba that includes maritime military enforcement that aims to end all oil imports to Cuba. Of course, this is existential for Cuba, as it relies heavily (>60%) on oil imports for its energy. In particular, Trump's removal of Venezuela as a source of oil for Cuba has been a key factor.

Since the new "maximum pressure" plan with the embargo, Cuba has complained to the UN and Russia has been attempting (perhaps successfully) to circumvent the embargo. Trump has announced various pressures and retaliations (mostly tariffs) to countries that supply Cuba. But also in February, the Trump administration announced a relief package to Cuba (food and supplies) to be distributed through NGOs, not the Cuban government.

In the past few days:
- Cuba's oil supplies are very low
- Russian tankers may be attempting to supply Cuba.
- Canada has announced it will be coming with an aid package (appears to not include oil) - and it did not consult the US about this at all.
- Mexico (another key supplier to Cuba) appears caught in the US pressure campaign

Oh and also, Cuba today fired up and killed four people in a USA-registered speed boat that violated restricted space

Russia considers fuel support for Cuba as Canada pledges food aid

A US-imposed fuel embargo has threatened to spark a humanitarian crisis in Cuba, whose energy grid relies on fossil fuel

www.aljazeera.com

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ottawa-funding-cuba-9.7105223

 

[MT15]

Yeah, lets support a heinous, corrupt communist systems that grossly abuses the common people of Cuba.

False equivalency. You do not have to do one or the other. You can choose to behave ethically - you know - NOT commit heinous acts to inflict suffering on innocent people - while still not supporting a different corrupt system. Although our own system today is pretty much just as corrupt as any other system you can bring up.

This isn’t a difficult concept. I’m pretty sure I could explain to my grandson and he would understand.

Edit - to boil it down, the ends do not justify the means. This is something you seem to struggle mightily with.

 

[MT15]

I mean - just let this sink in. Sendai is trying to say that if you support humanitarian aid to the people of Cuba that you are supporting the regime. It’s just beyond the pale, actually.

 

[Sendai]

I mean - just let this sink in. Sendai is trying to say that if you support humanitarian aid to the people of Cuba that you are supporting the regime. It’s just beyond the pale, actually.

I never said that about humanitarian aid. Just your fevered mind interpretation.

With Cuba your dealing with leadership and military that diverted some aid from Mexico to dollar stores where they profit.

The U S provides aid through catholic charites. Obviously a good thing.

Providing support emboldens the Cuban leadership and military government and is at the expense of the common folk of Cuba.

You can be sure the leadership and military have private generators and the resources to run them. Typical communist system.

 

[LA 2 L.A.]

You can be sure the leadership and military have private generators and the resources to run them.

You can't put 2 and 2 together can you. You just hit the nail on the head that the US blockade of Cuba only hurts the people, but does not hurt the regime you say is hurting the people.

You claim you support the blockade, because it's freeing the people of Cuba from the regime, but as you just pointed out the blockade actually hurts the people, not the government of Cuba.

You are a walking contradiction. You really should think things through before you post.

 

[MT15]

You can't put 2 and 2 together can you. You just hit the nail on the head that the US blockade of Cuba only hurts the people, but does not hurt the regime you say is hurting the people.

You claim you support the blockade, because it's freeing the people of Cuba from the regime, but as you just pointed out the blockade actually hurts the people, not the government of Cuba.

You are a walking contradiction. You really should think things through before you post.

And he slurs me with the misogynistic “fevered mind”. All the while posting false equivalencies and straw men and justifying means with the end.

 

[MT15]

I never said that about humanitarian aid. Just your fevered mind interpretation.

Once again with the misogyny. I said I supported humanitarian aid, and I also said I think Rubio is being cruel and heartless (actually soulless) with his action to blockade Cuba. You then inferred that meant I support the regime in Cuba.

There is not a damn thing “fevered” about my response to you. You seem to have trouble with straight logic. Just because I oppose what the Trump administration is doing - because a blockade is an act of war, and because it is punishing the civilian population more so than the military it is a war crime - doesn’t mean I support the Cuban government.

Can you even admit that simple logical fact, or do you want to disparage my intellect some more instead?

 

[Sendai]

Once again with the misogyny. I said I supported humanitarian aid, and I also said I think Rubio is being cruel and heartless (actually soulless) with his action to blockade Cuba. You then inferred that meant I support the regime in Cuba.

There is not a damn thing “fevered” about my response to you. You seem to have trouble with straight logic. Just because I oppose what the Trump administration is doing - because a blockade is an act of war, and because it is punishing the civilian population more so than the military it is a war crime - doesn’t mean I support the Cuban government.

Can you even admit that simple logical fact, or do you want to disparage my intellect some more instead?

Actually there is no blockade or embargo. The threat is that any country shipping fuel to Cuba will be tariffed. And we know what the Supreme Court thinks of that.

Well I never said I didn’t support humanitarian aid and you still came up with that claim. So?

 

[MT15]

Actually there is no blockade or embargo. The threat is that any country shipping fuel to Cuba will be tariffed. And we know what the Supreme Court thinks of that.

Well I never said I didn’t support humanitarian aid and you still came up with that claim. So?

You said I was supporting the Cuban regime, because I oppose (on humanitarian grounds) what the US is doing to Cuba. Then when I pointed out that one doesn’t follow the other, you said (again) that I have a “fevered mind”.

How is that any different than me inferring that because you support the blockade of fuel from Cuba, which you have admitted is hurting the people of Cuba far more than the regime, that you are against humanitarian aid to Cuba?

I don’t know how you can support the blockade - and that is exactly what it is (a Russian tanker with fuel turned away when it was one day out from Cuba) and then say you care about the people of Cuba.

This blockade is hurting the innocent people of Cuba and not really hurting the regime.

 

[Sendai]

You said I was supporting the Cuban regime, because I oppose (on humanitarian grounds) what the US is doing to Cuba. Then when I pointed out that one doesn’t follow the other, you said (again) that I have a “fevered mind”.

How is that any different than me inferring that because you support the blockade of fuel from Cuba, which you have admitted is hurting the people of Cuba far more than the regime, that you are against humanitarian aid to Cuba?

I don’t know how you can support the blockade - and that is exactly what it is (a Russian tanker with fuel turned away when it was one day out from Cuba) and then say you care about the people of Cuba.

This blockade is hurting the innocent people of Cuba and not really hurting the regime.

I don’t support a blockade. I support requiring proper conditions be met by the leadership before providing the fuel. That’s what Rubio is working on. Providing the fuel unconditionally just means the people are going to get shafted. Cuba pumps 40% of its oil at home. You can be sure who is using it and who is suffering.

 

[MT15]

I don’t support a blockade. I support requiring proper conditions be met by the leadership before providing the fuel. That’s what Rubio is working on. Providing the fuel unconditionally just means the people are going to get shafted. Cuba pumps 40% of its oil at home. You can be sure who is using it and who is suffering.

You are naive if you think this Administration is doing anything for the good of the Cuban people. Trump just wants to take money and/or resources from Cuba and Rubio is helping him. Rubio knows better than most how absolutely depraved Trump is, yet he heaps praise on him in public and in private and goes along with every idiotic idea. Even those that are illegal and/or immoral.

Do you think the people of Venezuela are better off now than before Trump went in and took their oil? How has that worked out for them? They have the exact same regime, just fewer resources.

 

[Lapaz]

I don’t support a blockade. I support requiring proper conditions be met by the leadership before providing the fuel. That’s what Rubio is working on. Providing the fuel unconditionally just means the people are going to get shafted. Cuba pumps 40% of its oil at home. You can be sure who is using it and who is suffering.

The U.S. has been trying to strangle Cuba for over 60 years. It hasn't worked. Things only started to get better when we allowed trade. There are many regimes throughout the world that are worse to its people than Cuba. Cubans don't have the rights that we have, but the government does try to provide education, health care, housing and food to its citizens. It struggles because of many factors, but it hates America more because of how we treat them. We could try to use bullets and bullying to change the regime, but many people will be hurt. Alternatively, if we stopped trying to interfere with their government, and opened up trade with them, Cuba would no longer hate us, and I think the country would do better much sooner than if we went to war with them.

 

[LA 2 L.A.]

And he slurs me with the misogynistic “fevered mind”. All the while posting false equivalencies and straw men and justifying means with the end.

I believe comments like from Send-AI are driven by feelings of frustration and insecurity. There's a reason he let's "AI" do most of his talking for him.

 

[LA 2 L.A.]

Actually there is no blockade or embargo.

From, "we've done blockades like this before," to "There is no blockade or embargo of Cuba." Welcome to the perpetually self-contradictory mind of Send-AI.

One of the weaknesses of "AI" is that it has no memory of what someone has previously asked it to say.

 

[LA 2 L.A.]

I don’t support a blockade. I support requiring proper conditions be met by the leadership before providing the fuel.

I'm convinced if you were a builder, you'd try to build exclusively on shifting sands. No only did you previously support a blockade, you also tried to justify it by making the false claim that we were already blockading Cuba.

That’s what Rubio is working on. Providing the fuel unconditionally just means the people are going to get shafted. Cuba pumps 40% of its oil at home. You can be sure who is using it and who is suffering.

Tell me you don't know anything about Cuba other than what the lying Republicans tell you without saying the actual words.

 

[Dragon]

Yeah, lets support a heinous, corrupt communist systems that grossly abuses the common people of Cuba.

Yes lets support the replacement of one autoritarian government of an independent nation who at least server the interests of said country and instead replace it with "someone who will "serve American capitalist interests".

 

[Dragon]

I never said that about humanitarian aid. Just your fevered mind interpretation.

With Cuba your dealing with leadership and military that diverted some aid from Mexico to dollar stores where they profit.

The U S provides aid through catholic charites. Obviously a good thing.

Providing support emboldens the Cuban leadership and military government and is at the expense of the common folk of Cuba.

You can be sure the leadership and military have private generators and the resources to run them. Typical communist system.

That claim has been debunked - multiple times. It stems from an ultra right wing mexican news source