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    superchuck500

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    Following the Project 2025 playbook, in the last week, Trump and his newly installed loyalists have moved to (1) dismiss federal officials deemed unreliable to do his bidding (including 17 inspectors general) - many of which have protections from arbitrary dismissal, (2) freeze all science and public health activity until he can wrest full control, (3) freeze all federal assistance and grant activity deemed inconsistent with Trump's agenda, and (4) moved to terminate all federal employee telework and DEI programs.

    The problem is much of this is controlled by federal law and not subject to sudden and complete change by the president through executive order. Most notably is the Impoundment Control Act of 1974 that simply codifies what is the constitutional allocation of resources where Congress appropriates money to the executive branch for a specific purpose, the executive branch must carry out that statutory purpose. This is indeed a constitutional crisis and even if Congress abdicates to Trump by acquiescing, the courts must still apply the law - or rule it unconstitutional.

    And meanwhile the architect of much of this unlawful action is Russell Vought, Trump’s OMB nominee who the Senate appears ready to confirm.





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    120. The Impoundment Crisis of 2025

    The Trump administration's Monday spending freeze is likely to provoke a crisis over the constitutionality of "impoundment"—one that the justices could well have to resolve *very* soon.
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    TampaJoe said:
    I don’t know that USAID did anything “wrong”. Obviously the current administration believes there is a better use for those funds.
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    Sure, but isn't the proper response to just tell the agencies to focus on his priorities? And not say, call them criminals? Also to honor contract commitments and pay your bills? Should the president follow the law?

    There are plenty of ways to re-prioritize the governments spending without deliberately lying about said spending. You can also do it without appointing someone with clear and obvious conflicts of interest. you can also do it within the confines of the law, and standard processes.
     
    el caliente said:
    Why yes. Yes I did.

    Lets hope that DOGE has the same positive impact that those two entity’s had.
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    So you understand that there is a very real difference between DOGE and the two entities you keep bringing up and when you ask stupid questions like, "What is the difference between the three other than “Elon is yucky, and Trump is a doodoo head", you are being incredibly dishonest.
     
    cuddlemonkey said:
    So you understand that there is a very real difference between DOGE and the two entities you keep bringing up and when you ask stupid questions like, "What is the difference between the three other than “Elon is yucky, and Trump is a doodoo head", you are being incredibly dishonest.
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    Yes, I don't think this can be emphasised enough. I mean, essentially this is:

    Musk: Attempts to feed USAID 'into the chipper' and kill the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau within a couple of weeks of DOGE being created by executive order by Trump.

    Someone who is definitely not trolling: This is just like the Truman Committee in the 1940s, which was formed by the Senate, conducted respectful public hearings and made considered recommendations with bipartisan support over a period of years, and the National Partnership for Reinventing Government in the 1990s, which started with a six-month efficiency review, involving months of consultation and consolidating 2,000 pages of proposals, before releasing a first report with 384 recommendations!
     
    RobF said:
    Yes, I don't think this can be emphasised enough. I mean, essentially this is:

    Musk: Attempts to feed USAID 'into the chipper' and kill the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau within a couple of weeks of DOGE being created by executive order by Trump.

    Someone who is definitely not trolling: This is just like the Truman Committee in the 1940s, which was formed by the Senate, conducted respectful public hearings and made considered recommendations with bipartisan support over a period of years, and the National Partnership for Reinventing Government in the 1990s, which started with a six-month efficiency review, involving months of consultation and consolidating 2,000 pages of proposals, before releasing a first report with 384 recommendations!
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    Yeah, the fantasy land some people choose to live in is wild.
     
    el caliente said:
    I don’t know how to respond to this. Weren’t you really big into the Russian collusion thang?

    Also, no laughing emoji in response to my joke about the web developers of the DOGE website? That’s bipartisan comedy.

    This DOGE story seems to be the red meat that MSNBC, WaPo, and Trustmebro.com (formerly trustmeaboutproject2025bro.com) know that their consumers can’t get enough of.
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    I know - or I thought I knew - you’re not a stupid person. What you are pushing here on this thread are well, stupid ideas. There’s a big difference between having a website that you are earnestly trying to get to work that crashes, and having a website that just essentially doesn’t have any information because you don’t give a shirt about transparency. From all evidence, Musk is actively avoiding transparency. Evidently you cannot discern the difference.

    Going back to Russian collusion just makes you look really, really not bright. There were definitely elements of Russian collusion, Trump’s campaign took a meeting with someone who represented herself as a Russian government lawyer offering “dirt” on Clinton. They said they “loved it”. So if you want to parrot the propaganda that the Trump campaign didn’t have any improper Russian contacts, well you would look silly. Manafort had clandestine meetings with a Russian intelligence agent where he shared internal campaign documents with him. There was more but this is tiresome and boring to keep going over it.

    It’s like you are a person who just wants to sneer and dunk on people with cartoonishly simple concepts of what actually happened, instead of being an actual grownup who can understand complex realities.

    It’s completely ironic that you think we are being influenced by media, when we have been pointing out actual occurrences, direct quotes and the like. Nobody here has been relying on MSNBC, WaPo or any other single source.

    What you are doing is believing in Musk, who has repeatedly shown by word and deed that he isn’t to be trusted. And then making reference to “trustme.bro” when that is exactly what you are advocating we should do with Musk.

    The irony is very thick, and yes, from all evidence here you think you are smarter than the rest of us. Old and tired. Not funny.
     
    Any attempts to stop this madness is the real constitutional crisis
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    WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House said Wednesday that court rulings going against the Trump administration are coming from “judicial activists” on the bench whose decisions amount to a “constitutional crisis.”

    White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt made the comments as she pushed back against critics of Republican President Donald Trump’s expansive actions.

    “We believe these judges are acting as judicial activists rather than honest arbiters of the law,” Leavitt said…….



    apnews.com

    White House says it's the judges — not Trump — causing a 'constitutional crisis'

    The White House says court rulings going against President Donald Trump's administration are coming from “judicial activists” on the bench whose decisions amount to a “constitutional crisis.”
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    Optimus Prime said:
    Any attempts to stop this madness is the real constitutional crisis
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    WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House said Wednesday that court rulings going against the Trump administration are coming from “judicial activists” on the bench whose decisions amount to a “constitutional crisis.”

    White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt made the comments as she pushed back against critics of Republican President Donald Trump’s expansive actions.

    “We believe these judges are acting as judicial activists rather than honest arbiters of the law,” Leavitt said…….



    apnews.com

    White House says it's the judges — not Trump — causing a 'constitutional crisis'

    The White House says court rulings going against President Donald Trump's administration are coming from “judicial activists” on the bench whose decisions amount to a “constitutional crisis.”
    apnews.com apnews.com
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    “We believe…” They have no beliefs beyond chaos, grifting and worshipping a false god.
     
    J-DONK said:
    The wildest part about that is what it conveyed. Elon is the president. He was taking questions from behind the resolute desk, while Trump just sat there.
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    Not to mention that they don’t give a flying fork at a rolling doughnut about kids.
     
    Optimus Prime said:
    Any attempts to stop this madness is the real constitutional crisis
    ============

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House said Wednesday that court rulings going against the Trump administration are coming from “judicial activists” on the bench whose decisions amount to a “constitutional crisis.”

    White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt made the comments as she pushed back against critics of Republican President Donald Trump’s expansive actions.

    “We believe these judges are acting as judicial activists rather than honest arbiters of the law,” Leavitt said…….



    apnews.com

    White House says it's the judges — not Trump — causing a 'constitutional crisis'

    The White House says court rulings going against President Donald Trump's administration are coming from “judicial activists” on the bench whose decisions amount to a “constitutional crisis.”
    apnews.com apnews.com
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    Karoline Leavitt appears to me to be just barely - and oh so barely - average intelligence. She doesn't really understand any of this, so she just can spout the Trump/MAGA line without any real engagement. It's a fascinating thing, it totally undermines the ability to get real answers from her because she just doesn't know enough to engage and give a real opinion.

    She mispronounces words all the time. She said "Gaza is unhabitable." She said "Elon Musk is all about efficiently." I bet someone is tracking her mush somewhere.

    "Merit" hire. :rolleyes:
     
    superchuck500 said:
    Karoline Leavitt appears to me to be just barely - and oh so barely - average intelligence. She doesn't really understand any of this, so she just can spout the Trump/MAGA line without any real engagement. It's a fascinating thing, it totally undermines the ability to get real answers from her because she just doesn't know enough to engage and give a real opinion.

    She mispronounces words all the time. She said "Gaza is unhabitable." She said "Elon Musk is all about efficiently." I bet someone is tracking her mush somewhere.

    "Merit" hire. :rolleyes:
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    "Pretty blonde woman" is all the merit she (and all the future Trump press secretaries, and there absolutely will be more) needs
     
    Here’s the end game for USAID. It’s a cash grab.

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