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    The big story to me is that Trump is once again underperforming his polls, at this point anyway. Haley barely campaigned in MI, and Trump is basically an incumbent among the GOP. 60 some percent is not good.
     
    MT15 said:
    The big story to me is that Trump is once again underperforming his polls, at this point anyway. Haley barely campaigned in MI, and Trump is basically an incumbent among the GOP. 60 some percent is not good.
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    I'm not staying up to watch the final tally, but looks like only 40% of the votes counted so far. I'll be curious to see what the final %s are. My guess is she'll do worse %-wise than she did in her home state
     
    zztop said:
    I'm not staying up to watch the final tally, but looks like only 40% of the votes counted so far. I'll be curious to see what the final %s are. My guess is she'll do worse %-wise than she did in her home state
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    I agree, but she campaigned hard in SC and it was her home state. She really didn’t campaign in MI. Trump getting 70% of the vote is a problem for him in the general, and he isn’t there yet. Trump cannot afford to lose any of the base GOP voters because he isn’t appealing to independents.
     
    MT15 said:
    Uncommitted is the protest vote over Gaza. It’s sort of a tradition in MI. They did it to Obama in 2012 also, with a result between 10-20% as well, over his support for Israel.
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    I believe that MI has the largest Arab demographic in the nation.

    Exit polling in SC GOP primary showed that 59% of Haley voters said they would not vote for Trump. I wonder what percentage of the non-Biden D voters would remain in that position in November? Strongly doubt it’s 59%.
     
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    Uncommitted up to 13% of the vote. Pretty substantial either way considering biden won Michigan by only ~150k votes over Trump in 2020:

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    'Uncommitted' Michigan primary vote results: What happens next for Biden, campaign
     
    Heathen said:
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    Uncommitted up to 13% of the vote. Pretty substantial either way considering biden won Michigan by only ~150k votes over Trump in 2020:

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    Interesting the total number of people that voted in a largely uncontested Democratic primary. When Obama was running in 2012 as the incumbent, only some 200,000 people voted in the Democratic primary, that's a 392% increase. Republicans also saw an increase in voters over 2012, but only by 83348 people, a 8.36% increase. Biden's uncommitted vote was only 3% more than Obama's.


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    coldseat said:
    Interesting the total number of people that voted in a largely uncontested Democratic primary. When Obama was running in 2012 as the incumbent, only some 200,000 people voted in the Democratic primary. Republicans also saw an increase in voters over 2012, but only by 50,000 people. Biden's uncommitted vote was only 3% more than Obama's.


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    Right, but the total number of votes this election was much higher so while it is only 3% higher, it is also 80,000 more votes. I'd be interested to know why so many voted uncommitted in 2012.
     
    Heathen said:
    Right, but the total number of votes this election was much higher so while it is only 3% higher, it is also 80,000 more votes. I'd be interested to know why so many voted uncommitted in 2012.
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    I believe many Arabs/liberals also had a problem with Obama's support and policy in regards to Israel.
     
    abcnews.go.com

    Anti-Biden 'uncommitted' voters set to win 2 delegates in Michigan primary, boosting protest

    A protest movement to cast "uncommitted" votes over Joe Biden in Michigan's Democratic primary is estimated to have won two delegates
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    A protest movement to cast "uncommitted" votes over President Joe Biden in Michigan's Democratic primary is estimated to have won two delegates in the nominating race

    That means uncommitted's voters will have a voice -- even if a relatively small one -- at the Democratic Party's national convention in August, which will be dominated by Biden supporters looking to rally the party against Donald Trump.
     

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