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    Very sobering article
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    If you know people still in denial about the crisis of American democracy, kindly remove their heads from the sand long enough to receive this message: A startling new finding by one of the nation’s top authorities on foreign civil wars says we are on the cusp of our own.

    Barbara F. Walter, a political science professorat the University of California at San Diego, serves on a CIA advisory panel called the Political Instability Task Force that monitors countries around the world and predicts which of them are most at risk of deteriorating into violence.

    By law, the task force can’t assess what’s happening within the United States, but Walter, a longtime friend who has spent her career studying conflicts in Syria, Lebanon, Northern Ireland, Sri Lanka, the Philippines, Rwanda, Angola, Nicaragua and elsewhere, applied the predictive techniques herself to this country.

    Her bottom line: “We are closer to civil war than any of us would like to believe.” She lays out the argument in detail in her must-read book, “How Civil Wars Start,” out in January. “No one wants to believe that their beloved democracy is in decline, or headed toward war,” she writes.

    But, “if you were an analyst in a foreign country looking at events in America — the same way you’d look at events in Ukraine or the Ivory Coast or Venezuela — you would go down a checklist, assessing each of the conditions that make civil war likely.

    And what you would find is that the United States, a democracy founded more than two centuries ago, has entered very dangerous territory.”

    Indeed, the United States has already gone through what the CIA identifies as the first two phases of insurgency — the “pre-insurgency” and “incipient conflict” phases — and only time will tell whether the final phase, “open insurgency,” began with the sacking of the Capitol by Donald Trump supporters on Jan. 6.

    Things deteriorated so dramatically under Trump, in fact, that the United States no longer technically qualifies as a democracy. Citing the Center for Systemic Peace’s “Polity” data set — the one the CIA task force has found to be most helpful in predicting instability and violence — Walter writes that the United States is now an “anocracy,” somewhere between a democracy and an autocratic state.

    U.S. democracy had received the Polity index’s top score of 10, or close to it, for much of its history. But in the five years of the Trump era, it tumbled precipitously into the anocracy zone; by the end of his presidency, the U.S. score had fallen to a 5, making the country a partial democracy for the first time since 1800.

    “We are no longer the world’s oldest continuous democracy,” Walter writes. “That honor is now held by Switzerland, followed by New Zealand, and then Canada. We are no longer a peer to nations like Canada, Costa Rica, and Japan, which are all rated a +10 on the Polity index.”…….

    Others have reached similar findings. The Stockholm-based International Institute for Democracy and Electoral Assistance put the United States on a list of “backsliding democracies” in a report last month.

    “The United States, the bastion of global democracy, fell victim to authoritarian tendencies itself," the report said.

    And a new survey by the academic consortium Bright Line Watch found that 17 percent of those who identify strongly as Republicans support the use of violence to restore Trump to power, and 39 percent favor doing everything possible to prevent Democrats from governing effectively……



     
    No. But it is the stated goal of the Proud and Boogaloo bois.

    They want to start an extinction-level race war while whites can still win it.
    Cool or whatever. So do tell me why the federal court houses and police stations (and Targets for some reason) were attacked during the Floyd riots in 2020?
     
    You mean the property damage that was started by a white supremacist with the intent of stoking anger and turning the protests violent?
    I guess stupid people would be fooled by that because it worked, did it not? There were arrests of BLM/Antifa foot soldiers so I guess it tracks that they were dumb enough to fall for a counter leadership psych op or is more like the stupid left lemming scenario?
     
    You've never met a fact you can't ignore, have you?
    Did you know BLM also supports decapitating babies as well? Do you think they will put that in their 'about' section of their website?

    https://www.newsweek.com/black-lives-matter-praises-hamas-sparks-backlash-1833630

    "In a statement posted on social media, the BLM Grassroots chapter responded to the ongoing fighting between Hamas militants and Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) saying, "As the world is faced with deep questions about self-determination, as well all desire and pray for a world of peace, we must stand unwaveringly on the side of the oppressed. When a people have been subject to decades of apartheid and unimaginable violence, their resistance must not be condemned, but understood as a desperate act of self-defense.""

    At the very least they are finally being honest. I assume you don't support BLM any longer after they made it clear they support the murder, rape and kidnapping of women, children, infants and civilians, correct?
     
    I guess stupid people would be fooled by that because it worked, did it not? There were arrests of BLM/Antifa foot soldiers so I guess it tracks that they were dumb enough to fall for a counter leadership psych op or is more like the stupid left lemming scenario?

    This isn't the witty comeback you think it is. I'd explain it, but it's funnier if it continues to go over your head.
     
    Did you know BLM also supports decapitating babies as well? Do you think they will put that in their 'about' section of their website?

    https://www.newsweek.com/black-lives-matter-praises-hamas-sparks-backlash-1833630

    "In a statement posted on social media, the BLM Grassroots chapter responded to the ongoing fighting between Hamas militants and Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) saying, "As the world is faced with deep questions about self-determination, as well all desire and pray for a world of peace, we must stand unwaveringly on the side of the oppressed. When a people have been subject to decades of apartheid and unimaginable violence, their resistance must not be condemned, but understood as a desperate act of self-defense.""

    At the very least they are finally being honest. I assume you don't support BLM any longer after they made it clear they support the murder, rape and kidnapping of women, children, infants and civilians, correct?

    Just to clarify- you do understand that there is a difference between supporting Palestinians and supporting Hamas, right? Additionally, you understand that there is a difference between supporting a fight for freedom and supporting vile, disgusting, stomach-churning atrocities, right?
     
    Ok, what you typed makes no sense (I think you might have left out the Mongols in your regurgitation of 'bad and you left out Trump all together. Proud of you).
    So, tell me again why police stations and federal courthouses were targeted during the St. Floyd riots in 2020 or do we chalk that one up to the Viet Kong as well?
    No, you failed again. You know why law enforcement was targeted. Tell you what let us ask George Floyd or Breanna Taylor.

    Your insipid comment about the Vietcong is meaningless. Your Reich Wing Fascist party and the fellow travelers I listed are self-explanatory. That includes Trump as well although he has no philosophy beyond grifting.
     
    Just to clarify- you do understand that there is a difference between supporting Palestinians and supporting Hamas, right? Additionally, you understand that there is a difference between supporting a fight for freedom and supporting vile, disgusting, stomach-churning atrocities, right?
    They have deleted this tweet. Can you explain the difference when they post things like this:

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    Oh, my mistake. Now that I read the final draft of their 'about' section on thier website that they have already edited to take away the icky parts of it, it all must be true now. Why would they lie about themselves, am I right?
    I mean if it's in their about section on their website then it has to be 100% fact right? 😆

    I remember when this was on their website:

    We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and ‘villages’ that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable,” the website formerly read.
     
    They have deleted this tweet. Can you explain the difference when they post things like this:

    20231027_163747.png

    If I recall, this was posted not too long after the paraglider attack at the music festival, which makes this imagery decidedly messed up. The message itself is not a bad thing. Palestine is not the same as Hamas. This is a true "both sides" situation where atrocities have been committed by both groups for decades. The people we should be standing with are the people who just want to live their lives without fear of being a victim of such atrocities.
     
    I mean if it's in their about section on their website then it has to be 100% fact right? 😆

    I remember when this was on their website:

    We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and ‘villages’ that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable,” the website formerly read.

    Let's unpack it.

    "We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and ‘villages’ that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable"

    Do you have a problem with supporting people in our communities and treating them like family? Do you have a problem with communities coming together to help one another?
     
    If I recall, this was posted not too long after the paraglider attack at the music festival, which makes this imagery decidedly messed up. The message itself is not a bad thing. Palestine is not the same as Hamas. This is a true "both sides" situation where atrocities have been committed by both groups for decades. The people we should be standing with are the people who just want to live their lives without fear of being a victim of such atrocities.
    The message itself is not a bad thing? Even with the picture of the hang glider which is absolutely disgusting? They could had posted something in support of Palestine without the hang gliders.
     
    Let's unpack it.

    "We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and ‘villages’ that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable"

    Do you have a problem with supporting people in our communities and treating them like family? Do you have a problem with communities coming together to help one another?
    I have a problem with anyone who wants the disruption of the nuclear family. Why couldn't they support people in the community and have people come together without trying to disrupt the nuclear family?
     
    The message itself is not a bad thing? Even with the picture of the hang glider which is absolutely disgusting? They could had posted something in support of Palestine without the hang gliders.

    If I recall, this was posted not too long after the paraglider attack at the music festival, which makes this imagery decidedly messed up.

    There, in case you missed the part where I called it messed up (since the board would censor the word I clearly want to use).
     
    I have a problem with anyone who wants the disruption of the nuclear family. Why couldn't they support people in the community and have people come together without trying to disrupt the nuclear family?

    Since your reading comprehension is terrible, let me help you out again:

    "We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement"

    That word is doing a lot of work in this statement and you keep missing it.
     
    I saw you said that. How could the message be okay with that disgusting imagery?

    Easy. The message is standing with Palestine. Not Hamas. People on both sides of this, Palestinian and Israeli both, have been subjected to some disgusting, inhumane stuff. Those are the people we should be standing with. The message is half-right in my opinion.
     

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