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    I was looking for a place to put this so we could discuss but didn't really find a place that worked so I created this thread so we can all place articles, experiences, videos and examples of racism in the USA.

    This is one that happened this week. The lady even called and filed a complaint on the officer. This officer also chose to wear the body cam (apparently, LA doesn't require this yet). This exchange wasn't necessarily racist IMO until she started with the "mexican racist...you will never be white, like you want" garbage. That is when it turned racist IMO

    All the murderer and other insults, I think are just a by product of CRT and ACAB rhetoric that is very common on the radical left and sadly is being brought to mainstream in this country.

    Another point that I think is worth mentioning is she is a teacher and the sense of entitlement she feels is mind blowing.

    https://news.yahoo.com/black-teacher-berates-latino-la-221235341.html
     
    Farb said:
    Began to walk around the front the vehicle when he was told to stop. If he would have obeyed the officer and just taken the ticket, everyone would be alive. Instead, he didn't, ran, fought and got shot.

    It is amazing you said you watched the video and I know I watched the video and we see completely different things. I guess it is to be expected.
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    It really is. Lyoya took two slow steps towards the front of the vehicle, clearly not a threat, and the cop got physical. It's amazing that you can watch that happen and justify the cop's actions.
     
    coldseat said:
    Strictly speaking, it doesn't justify physical violence. I've seen/heard of many black people holding on to their composure in racist situations when being called the N-word. Then again she's racist and I'm not losing sleep over a racist getting slapped, man or woman. I bet she won't be doing that again.

    As far as consequences for the young man, I would go on the light side given the circumstances. She should also face consequences for calling him the N-word.
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    I agree with all of that.
    I think she did get punished as well, just not as harsh as the dude that slapped her.
     
    MT15 said:
    Your quote says she did not face any punishment.
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    Yep. And this statement by the school administration sounds way to kumbaya and like they're just waiting for this to blow over without actually addressing anything.

    A spokesperson for Henry County Schools said that both students had been spoken to productively and positively following the altercation.

    “We were made aware of a matter involving a student using highly inappropriate/offensive and unacceptable language toward another student, which then resulted in an altercation… School administrators were able to meet with students on Thursday in a very productive and positive way for students to express their feelings… Administrators and staff remain available to listen to and support anyone who needs it,” the spokesperson said.
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    MT15 said:
    Your quote says she did not face any punishment.
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    I believe that was was the 'walk-out' was about. He got suspended and she got punishment in house. To be honest, I think that is fair.
     
    Farb said:
    I believe that was was the 'walk-out' was about. He got suspended and she got punishment in house. To be honest, I think that is fair.
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    You probably side with the refs when the second guy gets flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct.
     
    Farb said:
    I believe that was was the 'walk-out' was about. He got suspended and she got punishment in house. To be honest, I think that is fair.
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    The article mentions zero punishment for the girl. Where did you see that?
     
    cuddlemonkey said:
    The article mentions zero punishment for the girl. Where did you see that?
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    I think I heard it on the radio, or maybe read it in another article. I will dig around and see if I can find it.
    Now if the girl, got nothing but a 'don't do that again' and all the details are correct in the account, then, yeah, I think you guys might have a point.
     
    Farb said:
    I think I heard it on the radio, or maybe read it in another article. I will dig around and see if I can find it.
    Now if the girl, got nothing but a 'don't do that again' and all the details are correct in the account, then, yeah, I think you guys might have a point.
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    Either way, evidently the first response from school admin was no punishment for the girl, and suspension for the boy. It seems they changed their mind, if they even did, when there were protests. That’s not a good response initially.
     
    Optimus Prime said:
    About the Crown Act
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    Last month, in the third year of a global pandemic, amid atrocities in Europe and battles at home over voting and abortion and basic human rights, the House of Representatives passed a bill about hair.


    The Crown Act (Creating a Respectful and Open World for Natural Hair Act), whose fate now rests with the Senate, seeks to provide legal protection for Black people and other minorities who face discrimination based on their hair.

    One of the nays, Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), called the bill trivial compared with other matters facing our country: “How about a world where gas prices aren’t five dollars a gallon? … How about a world where inflation isn’t at a 40-year high?” Jordan argued. “Those are the issues we should be focused on.”

    Jordan is wrong.


    The historical politicization of hair has created stereotypes and biases that affect Black people’s ability to thrive, and our laws do not adequately address this discrimination.

    Jordan and other critics have argued that the Crown Act is redundant because the Civil Rights Act of 1964 already offers protections against racial discrimination.

    But supporters of the bill rightly point out that clearer language is necessary to guide the courts in their interpretation of the law.


    For instance, the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission sued a company called Catastrophe Management Solutions after it rescinded a Black applicant’s job offer because she refused to cut off her dreadlocks.

    In 2016, a federal judge ruled that the company’s choice was not a violation of the Civil Rights Act. The act prevents discrimination against immutable characteristics, those seen as unchangeable and innate to a person’s being.

    But the court decided that hairstyles “suitable for Black hair texture,” as the EEOC described them, do not constitute an immutable characteristic.

    Such rulings have far-reaching consequences — especially for Black women. According to the results of a 2019 survey of over 2,000 women, Black women were 80 percent more likely than non-Black women to say they’d had to alter their hair to fit in at work.

    The same study found that Black women whose hair was natural or braided were consistently rated as “less ready” for job performance.

    These biases can threaten the livelihoods of Black people, who have reported being passed up for promotions or even fired because of their hair.
In schools, there are countless reports of Black children’s education and playtime being disrupted because their hair is considered “inappropriate.”

    In New Jersey, a 16-year-old wrestler was forced to cut off his dreadlocks before a match.

    Administrators at a school in Orlando threatened to expel a 12-year-old girl because her natural hair was deemed a “distraction.”…….

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    more on hair
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    WHARTON COUNTY, Texas (CBSDFW.COM/CNN) - Teenager Dyree Williams says nothing makes him feel more like himself than his hair, which he has proudly worn in twists, braids and locks all his life -- it's part of his identity and a direct connection to his ancestors.

    But Williams' locks became an issue after the 17-year-old moved from Cincinnati, Ohio, to East Bernard, a city about 50 miles outside of Houston, in February. His new school's dress code policy stated that "braided hair or corn rows will not be allowed," a policy that went against his very sense of self.

    "Once you cut that hair off, you cut off your line to your ancestors, you cut off your lineage, you cut off everything," Williams' mother, Desiree Bullock, said. "And just it's not an option ... We don't consider them dreadlocks because we don't dread them we love them."

    The school's student handbook, where the district's policy on hair is spelled out, states that "Boy's hair may not extend below the eyebrows, below the tops of the ears or below a conventional standup shirt collar, and must not be more than one-inch difference in the length of the hair on the side to the length of the hair on top."

    Bullock said that having her son change hairstyles to comply with the policy is not an option for either of them.

    CNN obtained a copy of the school handbook, which has been removed from the district's website. The handbook goes on to state that, "This includes but not limited to tall hair styles, side swept bang styles, and long hair dangling over shaved sides or shaved back of the head. This also includes mullets and mullets in the making. Braided hair or corn rows will not be allowed. No extremes in hair styles."

    Several attempts have been made to reach East Bernard High School and East Bernard Independent School District for comment but there has been no response...........

    MSN

    www.msn.com
     
    Optimus Prime said:
    more on hair
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    .............................................snip.................................

    "Once you cut that hair off, you cut off your line to your ancestors, you cut off your lineage, you cut off everything," Williams' mother, Desiree Bullock, said.

    .............................................snip............................................

    MSN

    www.msn.com
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    If you feel that way then your connection to your ancestors isn't very strong. IMO

    BTW, I guess that rules out our founding fathers:

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    I've read similar articles abiut the biases black doctors face for colleagues and patients too
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    ATLANTA (AP) — Dr. Dare Adewumi was thrilled when he was hired to lead the neurosurgery practice at an Atlanta-area hospital near where he grew up. But he says he quickly faced racial discrimination that ultimately led to his firing and has prevented him from getting permanent work elsewhere.

    His lawyers and other advocates say he's not alone, that Black doctors across the country commonly experience discrimination, ranging from microaggressions to career-threatening disciplinary actions. Biases, conscious or not, can become magnified in the fiercely competitive hospital environment, they say, and the underrepresentation of Black doctors can discourage them from speaking up.

    “Too many of us are worried about retaliation, what happens when you say something," said Dr. Rachel Villanueva, president of the National Medical Association, which represents Black doctors. “We have scores of doctors that are sending us letters about these same discriminatory practices all the time and seeking our help as an association in fighting that.”

    According to the Association of American Medical Colleges, Black doctors made up just 5% of active physicians in the U.S. in 2018, the most recent data available. People who identify as Black alone represent 12.4% of the total U.S. population, according to the 2020 U.S. census. For the 2021-2022 academic year, 8.1% of students enrolled in medical schools identified as Black alone. The medical school association and the National Medical Association in 2020 announced an initiative to address the scarcity of Black men in medicine — they made up only 2.9% of 2019-2020 enrolled students............

     

    Support Us

    When you support the Massachusetts General Hospital Center for Diversity and Inclusion, you are making a significant contribution to create an environment where students, residents and physicians who are underrepresented in medicine want to learn, train and advance.
    www.massgeneral.org www.massgeneral.org
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    Optimus Prime said:
    more on hair
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    WHARTON COUNTY, Texas (CBSDFW.COM/CNN) - Teenager Dyree Williams says nothing makes him feel more like himself than his hair, which he has proudly worn in twists, braids and locks all his life -- it's part of his identity and a direct connection to his ancestors.

    But Williams' locks became an issue after the 17-year-old moved from Cincinnati, Ohio, to East Bernard, a city about 50 miles outside of Houston, in February. His new school's dress code policy stated that "braided hair or corn rows will not be allowed," a policy that went against his very sense of self.

    "Once you cut that hair off, you cut off your line to your ancestors, you cut off your lineage, you cut off everything," Williams' mother, Desiree Bullock, said. "And just it's not an option ... We don't consider them dreadlocks because we don't dread them we love them."

    The school's student handbook, where the district's policy on hair is spelled out, states that "Boy's hair may not extend below the eyebrows, below the tops of the ears or below a conventional standup shirt collar, and must not be more than one-inch difference in the length of the hair on the side to the length of the hair on top."

    Bullock said that having her son change hairstyles to comply with the policy is not an option for either of them.

    CNN obtained a copy of the school handbook, which has been removed from the district's website. The handbook goes on to state that, "This includes but not limited to tall hair styles, side swept bang styles, and long hair dangling over shaved sides or shaved back of the head. This also includes mullets and mullets in the making. Braided hair or corn rows will not be allowed. No extremes in hair styles."

    Several attempts have been made to reach East Bernard High School and East Bernard Independent School District for comment but there has been no response...........

    MSN

    www.msn.com
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    I don't know... the "hair as culture" or "hair as connection to my ancestors" argument seems petty to me. I get that hair has been used as an excuse to discriminate against black people, but really, who can't make those arguments to validate all sorts of hair, from beads and braids to wigs?

    And reading the snippets from the handbook, it looks to me they are targeting white people: hippies, emos, punks, headbangers, and 80's hipsters.
     
    SystemShock said:
    I don't know... the "hair as culture" or "hair as connection to my ancestors" argument seems petty to me. I get that hair has been used as an excuse to discriminate against black people, but really, who can't make those arguments to validate all sorts of hair, from beads and braids to wigs?

    And reading the snippets from the handbook, it looks to me they are targeting white people: hippies, emos, punks, headbangers, and 80's hipsters.
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    Blacks have been ridiculed because of their hair for a long time in America. I won't use some of the names but I can understand their sensitivity. You have to have some kind of a dress/appearance code though. I certainly have no objection to corn rolls and the like but hair that covers the face shouldn't be allowed for either whites or blacks IMO.

    Example of what I might object to:

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    BullSheetBuddha said:
    Blacks have been ridiculed because of their hair for a long time in America. I won't use some of the names but I can understand their sensitivity. You have to have some kind of a dress/appearance code though. I certainly have no objection to corn rolls and the like but hair that covers the face shouldn't be allowed for either whites or blacks IMO.

    Example of what I might object to:

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    Seems pretty tame to me. I never understood people's obsessions over hair style.
     
    DaveXA said:
    Seems pretty tame to me. I never understood people's obsessions over hair style.
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    What seems tame? The hairdo I showed?

    That's fine for him, he's an adult, but I'd like to know who's in my 9th-grade classroom. You can't have 4 or 5 strands like that covering the face. If I was the principal or headmaster of a high school or prep school I wouldn't like that. I might let it go but I might not.
     
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    BullSheetBuddha said:
    I'd like to know who's in my 9th-grade classroom. You can't have 4 or 5 strands like that covering the face.
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    Do you even hear yourself?

    BullSheetBuddha said:
    If I was the principal or headmaster of a high school or prep school I wouldn't like that. I might let it go but I might not.
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    As someone who spent quite a few years teaching in a diverse school, and who is now an administrator, you're just not living in reality, man. Admin has so many bigger fish to fry than a kid who has a loc in his face.

    That seems like the stupidest hill to die on when we've got way more important things to do than be the hair police.
     

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