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    Anxiety surges as Donald Trump may be indicted soon: Why 2024 is 'the final battle' and 'the big one'​


    WASHINGTON – It looks like American politics is entering a new age of anxiety, triggered by an unprecedented legal development: The potential indictment of a former president and current presidential candidate.

    Donald Trump's many legal problems – and calls for protests by his followers – have generated new fears of political violence and anxiety about the unknowable impact all this will have on the already-tense 2024 presidential election


    I’ll reframe this is a more accurate way, Are Presidents above the law? This new age was spurred into existence when home grown dummies elected a corrupt, mentally ill, anti-democratic, would be dictator as President and don’t bother to hold him responsible for his crimes, don’t want to because in the ensuing mayhem and destruction, they think they will be better off. The man is actually advocating violence (not the first time). And btw, screw democracy too. If this feeling spreads, we are In deep shirt.

    This goes beyond one treasonous Peice of work and out to all his minions. This is on you or should we be sympathetic to the idea of they can’t help being selfish suckers to the Nation’s detriment? Donald Trump is the single largest individual threat to our democracy and it‘s all going to boil down to will the majority of the GOP return to his embrace and start slinging his excrement to support him?
     
    When you have family members getting pmts from foreign powers laundered thru 20 shell companies, that is suspicious and deserves to be investigated thoroughly and independently. Because that appears to be a conflict or interest and Biden, an attorney, should and does know better. Now you can turn a blind eye to this if you chose but you lose the right to complain when Republicans do the same thing.

    One standard. Enforced equally without fear or favor. You are either for it or you are not. If we want corruption out of politics, it begins with enforcing, vigorously, a standard of ethics. Otherwise the merry go round keeps on spinning.

    All that was debunked - He worked for a foreign company - not "foreign powers" at at time when Biden held no official powers and were paid for doing said job. He was also NEVER a part of the Obama admininstration. The republicans were so desperate to find something that they doctored emails and tried to make the repayment of a car loan suspect! You are still spreading lies which has been debunked for years.

    Now do Jared who got TWO BILLIONS from "foreign powers" - 2 WEEKS after leaving an OFFICIAL position as a US envoy to SAID foreign powers! Who is now actively planning with Israel to turn Gaza into a holiday resort! Not a peep from you abou that??
     
    All that was debunked - He worked for a foreign company - not "foreign powers" at at time when Biden held no official powers and were paid for doing said job. He was also NEVER a part of the Obama admininstration. The republicans were so desperate to find something that they doctored emails and tried to make the repayment of a car loan suspect! You are still spreading lies which has been debunked for years.

    Now do Jared who got TWO BILLIONS from "foreign powers" - 2 WEEKS after leaving an OFFICIAL position as a US envoy to SAID foreign powers! Who is now actively planning with Israel to turn Gaza into a holiday resort! Not a peep from you abou that??
    I said one standard. I didn’t vote for Trump. But if you want accountability, you have to be willing to live by that same standard. If you are not or if you still want to make excuses for unethical behavior, your complaints are and will fall on deaf ears.
     
    I said one standard. I didn’t vote for Trump. But if you want accountability, you have to be willing to live by that same standard. If you are not or if you still want to make excuses for unethical behavior, your complaints are and will fall on deaf ears.

    What is unethical about Bidens son having a job working for a foreign company while Biden held no official office? And how does that job compare to what Jared did?
     
    What is unethical about Bidens son having a job working for a foreign company while Biden held no official office? And how does that job compare to what Jared did?
    Hunter was receiving payments while his father was VP. Hunter was also being paid while his father was POTUS. And there is evidence Biden knew about the payments. By that standard alone, he was conflicted.

    The same standard should apply to Jared. The same standard should be applied Justice Thomas and every Judge. The same standard should be applied to every member of the Senate and the House and every cabinet level secretary.

    Everybody knows there is corruption. It isn’t hard to spot. But if you REALLY want to do something about it, then condemn it everywhere. Until that happens, it will continue.
     
    Hunter was receiving payments while his father was VP. Hunter was also being paid while his father was POTUS. And there is evidence Biden knew about the payments. By that standard alone, he was conflicted.

    The same standard should apply to Jared. The same standard should be applied Justice Thomas and every Judge. The same standard should be applied to every member of the Senate and the House and every cabinet level secretary.

    Everybody knows there is corruption. It isn’t hard to spot. But if you REALLY want to do something about it, then condemn it everywhere. Until that happens, it will continue.
    "Everybody knows" ... Like the fake SMS messages the Republican maga's showed ? Or the loan repayments ? "Everybody knows" is the excuse used by people who has no real evidence of the claims they are making!

    Hunter worked as a coorperate lawyer - If the republicans had ANY proof of any actions that Biden did that was influenced by his son - they would have shouted it out to the world. Instead they showed pictures of his private parts!

    Or do you simply say that if your parent or son/daughter is a politician, you can't work ?
     
    "Everybody knows" ... Like the fake SMS messages the Republican maga's showed ? Or the loan repayments ? "Everybody knows" is the excuse used by people who has no real evidence of the claims they are making!

    Hunter worked as a coorperate lawyer - If the republicans had ANY proof of any actions that Biden did that was influenced by his son - they would have shouted it out to the world. Instead they showed pictures of his private parts!

    Or do you simply say that if your parent or son/daughter is a politician, you can't work ?
    So Jared is okay in your view?
     
    So Jared is okay in your view?

    What Jared did is not the same. He WAS EMPLOYED by the white house and got billions 2 WEEKS after leaving office. In this case it has nothing to do with him being Trumps son in law but if any special envoy to the middle east gets 2 BILLIONS from the Saudi just weeks after leaving office it truely raises serious questions! Especially since he promoted removing the sanctions against the Saudi Crown prince (due to the murder and dismemberment of a US citizent) and the same Crown prince forced that donation through against the advice of his own people!
     
    What Jared did is not the same. He WAS EMPLOYED by the white house and got billions 2 WEEKS after leaving office. In this case it has nothing to do with him being Trumps son in law but if any special envoy to the middle east gets 2 BILLIONS from the Saudi just weeks after leaving office it truely raises serious questions! Especially since he promoted removing the sanctions against the Saudi Crown prince (due to the murder and dismemberment of a US citizent) and the same Crown prince forced that donation through against the advice of his own people!
    Jared was employed by the White House. Correct. But he wasn’t the decision maker was he? That was Trump. So you are saying he used his access and influence over his father in law to steer policy decisions favorable to the Saudi government in return for a lucarative business deal? Did I state that correctly?
     
    What was his job title?
    He wasn’t a cabinet Secretary. So he had no legal authority to make decisions. He could make recommendations but any deals he negotiated on behalf of the country had to be executed under either his Father in Laws authority or under the Authority of a cabinet secretary. Correct me if I am wrong.
     


    You've gotta be kidding me. How dumb are we to be duped continuously by these maga.

    Kushner requested security access. He failed. Trump stepped in and gave him the security access. After which, this no decision maker, flew to Riyadh and handed MBS a brief. What happened next was Saudis being rounded up and locked. Some tortured.

    There was an in-depth article that I cannot find now that detailed how a more moderate opponent to MBS who the CIA assessed to be favorable to US interest simply disappeared afterwards. Tell me about Hunter Biden. Tell us about George W. Bush and how he used his name to make millions off the Texas Rangers sale. Tell us about how he got access to easy money and made money off those oil. Tell us about the Trump sons trip to India after the 2016 election making business deals. Hunter Biden did the same thing as George W. It's unethical, yeah, but not illegal. We'd like to outlaw all this BS, but it's unfair and murky. Where does it stop? What is the line between merit and nepotism.

    My god. This is the BS that is killing America. Not the immigrants. Not the intellects. This freaking non critical thinking BS.

    Edit....what Jared did is considered corruption...FYI. serious corruption against us interest. But move along. Continue the both sides.
     
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    You've gotta be kidding me. How dumb are we to be duped continuously by these maga.

    Kushner requested security access. He failed. Trump stepped in and gave him the security access. After which, this no decision maker, flew to Riyadh and handed MBS a brief. What happened next was Saudis being rounded up and locked. Some tortured.

    There was an in-depth article that I cannot find now that detailed how a more moderate opponent to MBS who the CIA assessed to be favorable to US interest simply disappeared afterwards. Tell me about Hunter Biden. Tell us about George W. Bush and how he used his name to make millions off the Texas Rangers sale. Tell us about how he got access to easy money and made money off those oil. Tell us about the Trump sons trip to India after the 2016 election making business deals. Hunter Biden did the same thing as George W. It's unethical, yeah, but not illegal. We'd like to outlaw all this BS, but it's unfair and murky. Where does it stop? What is the line between merit and nepotism.

    My god. This is the BS that is killing America. Not the immigrants. Not the intellects. This freaking non critical thinking BS.

    Edit....what Jared did is considered corruption...FYI. serious corruption against us interest. But move along. Continue the both sides.
    it appears that we do agree that all this crap is corrupt and unethical. Some may even be illegal.

    What are you willing to do about it? That is the question. Ready to condemn it all or do we continue to pick and choose when and where and with whom we get outraged? Cause I think that doesn’t solve the problem but rather enables it.
     
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    it appears that we do agree that all this crap is corrupt and unethical. Some may even be illegal.

    What are you willing to do about it? That is the question. Ready to condemn it all or do we continue to pick and choose when and where and with whom we get outraged? Cause I think that doesn’t solve the problem but rather enables it.
    Both sides!
     
    it appears that we do agree that all this crap is corrupt and unethical. Some may even be illegal.

    What are you willing to do about it? That is the question. Ready to condemn it all or do we continue to pick and choose when and where and with whom we get outraged? Cause I think that doesn’t solve the problem but rather enables it.

    Do you agree that there is a difference between jaywalking and murder? What Hunter did would be on the same level as jaywalking. What Jared did was literally murder (because the information he provided caused people to die). The only thing Hunter did was bragging about his father but despite spending years looking into everything Hunter and Biden did, the republican Magas found NOTHING illegal.
     
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    Do you agree that there is a difference between jaywalking and murder? What Hunter did would be on the same level as jaywalking. What Jared did was literally murder (because the information he provided caused people to die). The only thing Hunter did was bragging about his father but despite spending years looking into everything Hunter and Biden did, the republican Magas found NOTHING illegal.
    We aren’t talking about jaywalking and murder. We are talking about influence peddling at the highest levels in our government.

    So what standard would you apply? Tell me where you draw the line so we all know just how far you are willing to go? How much profit from corruption is okay in your book?
     
    We aren’t talking about jaywalking and murder. We are talking about influence peddling at the highest levels in our government.

    So what standard would you apply? Tell me where you draw the line so we all know just how far you are willing to go? How much profit from corruption is okay in your book?
    There is not one single proof that Biden did anything under the influence of his son, NADA. and that despite years of investigations. Republicans claiming that without evidence is apparently enough for you. Furthermore Hunter was never a part of any Obama or Biden administration. But there is very clear proof that both Jared and Ivanka benefittet from their official employee positions in the white house.
     
    We aren’t talking about jaywalking and murder. We are talking about influence peddling at the highest levels in our government.

    So what standard would you apply? Tell me where you draw the line so we all know just how far you are willing to go? How much profit from corruption is okay in your book?

    Do you think taking a couple boxes of pens from the office home is the same as embezzling millions of dollars? I mean both are technically stealing from the company, so they should be treated the same way right?

    Okay, you don't like the jaywalking and murder comparison?

    How about first degree murder vs negligent homicide vs manslaughter?

    There are degrees to everything from innocent but fatal mistake to malicious and egregious

    And I believe what Jared did was several degrees higher than anything Hunter Biden did
     

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