The Impeachment Process Has Officially Begun (2 Viewers)

[Andrus]

By Laura Bassett

After months of internal arguing among Democrats over whether to impeach President Donald Trump, the dam is finally breaking in favor of trying to remove him from office. The Washington Post reported that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi would announce a formal impeachment inquiry on Tuesday, following a bombshell report that Trump illegally asked Ukraine’s government to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden, one of his political opponents. (He essentially admitted to having done so over the weekend.)

“Now that we have the facts, we’re ready,” Pelosi said Tuesday morning at a forum hosted by The Atlantic. At 5 p.m. the same day, she was back with more. "The actions taken to date by the president have seriously violated the constitution, especially when the president says Article Two says I can do whatever I want," referring to the segment of the Constitution that defines the power of the executive branch of the government. Pelosi's message was that checks and balances of those branches are just as central to the Constitution. And one more thing: "Today, I am announcing the House of Representatives is moving forward with an official impeachment inquiry," she said at a conference broadcast on Twitter by the Huffington Post. ...

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[Lapaz]

Sen. Kennedy takes back Sunday comments on alleged Ukrainian intervention in 2016

“I was wrong,” said the Louisiana Republican.

www.politico.com

To quote Kennedy on people that believe Trump sought Ukraine to interfere in our elections, “It must suck to be so stupid”. The irony is thick. I wonder how stupid Kennedy believes his supporters are?

 

[Optimus Prime]

.....We decided to take that thought to its natural conclusion, creating a sort of choose-your-own-adventure for the Ukraine scandal.

We’ve identified a number of critical junctures at which Trump might have taken another path and gamed out how things might be different if he made a different choice.

All of this is a sliding scale, of course; some small, seemingly insignificant actions might have shifted things dramatically in unexpected ways.

So we developed an impeachment score, tracking how much political danger you, our imaginary Trump surrogate, might be in. (Items highlighted in yellow actually happened.).........

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/11/27/choose-your-own-adventure-can-you-keep-being-impeached-over-ukraine/

 

[Lazybones]

To quote Kennedy on people that believe Trump sought Ukraine to interfere in our elections, “It must suck to be so stupid”. The irony is thick. I wonder how stupid Kennedy believes his supporters are?

how stupid do you think they are? I’m from La and voted for him over Foster Campbell. Does that put me in that category?

 

[Zardnok]

how stupid do you think they are? I’m from La and voted for him over Foster Campbell. Does that put me in that category?

Yes.

The majority of this state are in that category. Louisiana is somewhere between 46th and 50th in Education depending on what criteria they use. "Stupider" people are more likely to be taken in by Con-Men and grifters willing to say and do anything required to maintain their status and power.

 

[Lazybones]

Yes.

The majority of this state are in that category. Louisiana is somewhere between 46th and 50th in Education depending on what criteria they use. "Stupider" people are more likely to be taken in by Con-Men and grifters willing to say and do anything required to maintain their status and power.

Are you saying that in Louisiana, the lower IQ/educated are the conservatives? Is that the argument you are making with your above comment?

 

[SaintForLife]

Trump is doing well in the battleground states despite his low approval rating.

One Year From Election, Trump Trails Biden but Leads Warren in Battlegrounds (Published 2019)

Signs that the president’s advantage in the Electoral College has persisted or even increased since 2016.

www.nytimes.com

Even some Democrats are losing interest in impeachment.

Poll: Interest in impeachment inquiry dips among Democratic voters

Democratic voters appear to be losing interest in House Democrats’ ongoing impeachment inquiry into President Trump, according to a new Hill-HarrisX poll released on Monday.The number of Democratic…

thehill.com

Two-thirds of battleground state voters who chose Trump in 2016 but selected Democrats in the midterms say they will return to the president next year.

...Danny Destival, 56, who runs a greenhouse supply business in Panama City, Fla., said he’s “been a Southern Democrat all my life.” But in 2016, he cast his first Republican vote because he liked that Mr. Trump was a businessman, not a politician — and he disliked Hillary Clinton.

His main priority is voting for “the person who’s going to get more done” — that’s why he stuck with the Democrats in the midterms — but at the national level, he said, the Democrats have disappointed him on that front.

“If you’re going to Washington, you need to do something,” he said. “If the only thing you’re going to do the whole time you’re there is try to get rid of the president, that’s a problem. I mean, Trump is not a great person, but you’ve got to get some work done.”

They Voted Democratic. Now They Support Trump. (Published 2019)

Two-thirds of battleground state voters who chose Trump in 2016 but selected Democrats in the midterms say they will return to the president next year.

www.nytimes.com

 

[samiam5211]

Trump is doing well in the battleground states despite his low approval rating.

One Year From Election, Trump Trails Biden but Leads Warren in Battlegrounds (Published 2019)

Signs that the president’s advantage in the Electoral College has persisted or even increased since 2016.

www.nytimes.com

Even some Democrats are losing interest in impeachment.

Poll: Interest in impeachment inquiry dips among Democratic voters

Democratic voters appear to be losing interest in House Democrats’ ongoing impeachment inquiry into President Trump, according to a new Hill-HarrisX poll released on Monday.The number of Democratic…

thehill.com

Two-thirds of battleground state voters who chose Trump in 2016 but selected Democrats in the midterms say they will return to the president next year.

...Danny Destival, 56, who runs a greenhouse supply business in Panama City, Fla., said he’s “been a Southern Democrat all my life.” But in 2016, he cast his first Republican vote because he liked that Mr. Trump was a businessman, not a politician — and he disliked Hillary Clinton.

His main priority is voting for “the person who’s going to get more done” — that’s why he stuck with the Democrats in the midterms — but at the national level, he said, the Democrats have disappointed him on that front.

“If you’re going to Washington, you need to do something,” he said. “If the only thing you’re going to do the whole time you’re there is try to get rid of the president, that’s a problem. I mean, Trump is not a great person, but you’ve got to get some work done.”

They Voted Democratic. Now They Support Trump. (Published 2019)

Two-thirds of battleground state voters who chose Trump in 2016 but selected Democrats in the midterms say they will return to the president next year.

www.nytimes.com

Can you defend Trump on the facts?

What are the facts? What was going on with Rudy in Ukraine? Is that ok with you?

 

[Lazybones]

Can you defend Trump on the facts?

What are the facts? What was going on with Rudy in Ukraine? Is that ok with you?

I can’t answer for OP, but what does your questions have to do with what was posted. The response could have been, “don’t be like us and trust poll nbrs”

But as far as the impeachment unraveling before our eyes. Seems as if once again the democrats spend to much time in “trump tracker” threads and are mis judging the support from the American people.

 

[samiam5211]

I can’t answer for OP, but what does your questions have to do with what was posted. The response could have been, “don’t be like us and trust poll nbrs”

But as far as the impeachment unraveling before our eyes. Seems as if once again the democrats spend to much time in “trump tracker” threads and are mis judging the support from the American people.

This thread is about impeachment.

The people who oppose impeachment can’t give honest answers to the questions I asked.

They deflect to the deep state or Hillary’s email server.

The people who support Trump are either ignorant (or in denial) to the facts, or have sunk to a level of amorality that allows them to think it’s ok.

 

[Lazybones]

This thread is about impeachment.

The people who oppose impeachment can’t give honest answers to the questions I asked.

They deflect to the deep state or Hillary’s email server.

The people who support Trump are either ignorant (or in denial) to the facts, or have sunk to a level of amorality that allows them to think it’s ok.

please provide evidence that shows supporters of trump are ignorant.

Stop throwing around insults when things don’t go your way.

 

[Lazybones]

Are you saying that in Louisiana, the lower IQ/educated are the conservatives? Is that the argument you are making with your above comment?

I’m quoting my own post, because it appears that Zardnok has made a claim that I would like some clarification.

Some of you throw shade, but when called on it, disappear into the weeds.

 

[samiam5211]

please provide evidence that shows supporters of trump are ignorant.

Stop throwing around insults when things don’t go your way.

ignorant about the facts of this case. I wasn’t using ignorant in the general sense.

It is my opinion. Which is why I asked those questions giving an opportunity to change that opinion.

instead were bogged down over semantics and faux outrage.

 

[Lazybones]

ignorant about the facts of this case. I wasn’t using ignorant in the general sense.

It is my opinion. Which is why I asked those questions giving an opportunity to change that opinion.

instead were bogged down over semantics and faux outrage.

lol. Semantics argument plays well when you are the one being called out. The faux outrage is by the media and the left, claiming that trump is somehow impacting our day to day lives with Twitter.

 

[SaintForLife]

This thread is about impeachment.

The people who oppose impeachment can’t give honest answers to the questions I asked.

They deflect to the deep state or Hillary’s email server.

The people who support Trump are either ignorant (or in denial) to the facts, or have sunk to a level of amorality that allows them to think it’s ok.

It's almost like you quoted the wrong post. Everything I posted was about the polls about impeachment and what people were saying about it. If you are going to quote someone's post, it's probably best to respond to what they are saying.

 

[Lazybones]

It's almost like you quoted the wrong post. Everything I posted was about the polls about impeachment and what people were saying about it. If you are going to quote someone's post, it's probably best to respond to what they are saying.

semantics man! Don’t you understand.

 

[V Chip]

ignorant about the facts of this case. I wasn’t using ignorant in the general sense.

But I don’t think they’re ignorant of the facts of the case.

They just don’t care.

 

[samiam5211]

But I don’t think they’re ignorant of the facts of the case.

They just don’t care.

I think plenty fall into either (or both) categories.

 

[GMRfellowtraveller]

It's almost like you quoted the wrong post. Everything I posted was about the polls about impeachment and what people were saying about it. If you are going to quote someone's post, it's probably best to respond to what they are saying.

His implication was that you are posting this as a way to dodge substantive questions about the impeachment
Then asking further:
- are you ignorant of the facts of the case, OR
- away you aware of the facts, but ok with corruption?

Now, the faux outrage will come when you take great umbrage in the way I framed the question, but wil not address the actual facts of the hearings and what you believe (outside of political polls)