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    Very sobering article
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    If you know people still in denial about the crisis of American democracy, kindly remove their heads from the sand long enough to receive this message: A startling new finding by one of the nation’s top authorities on foreign civil wars says we are on the cusp of our own.

    Barbara F. Walter, a political science professorat the University of California at San Diego, serves on a CIA advisory panel called the Political Instability Task Force that monitors countries around the world and predicts which of them are most at risk of deteriorating into violence.

    By law, the task force can’t assess what’s happening within the United States, but Walter, a longtime friend who has spent her career studying conflicts in Syria, Lebanon, Northern Ireland, Sri Lanka, the Philippines, Rwanda, Angola, Nicaragua and elsewhere, applied the predictive techniques herself to this country.

    Her bottom line: “We are closer to civil war than any of us would like to believe.” She lays out the argument in detail in her must-read book, “How Civil Wars Start,” out in January. “No one wants to believe that their beloved democracy is in decline, or headed toward war,” she writes.

    But, “if you were an analyst in a foreign country looking at events in America — the same way you’d look at events in Ukraine or the Ivory Coast or Venezuela — you would go down a checklist, assessing each of the conditions that make civil war likely.

    And what you would find is that the United States, a democracy founded more than two centuries ago, has entered very dangerous territory.”

    Indeed, the United States has already gone through what the CIA identifies as the first two phases of insurgency — the “pre-insurgency” and “incipient conflict” phases — and only time will tell whether the final phase, “open insurgency,” began with the sacking of the Capitol by Donald Trump supporters on Jan. 6.

    Things deteriorated so dramatically under Trump, in fact, that the United States no longer technically qualifies as a democracy. Citing the Center for Systemic Peace’s “Polity” data set — the one the CIA task force has found to be most helpful in predicting instability and violence — Walter writes that the United States is now an “anocracy,” somewhere between a democracy and an autocratic state.

    U.S. democracy had received the Polity index’s top score of 10, or close to it, for much of its history. But in the five years of the Trump era, it tumbled precipitously into the anocracy zone; by the end of his presidency, the U.S. score had fallen to a 5, making the country a partial democracy for the first time since 1800.

    “We are no longer the world’s oldest continuous democracy,” Walter writes. “That honor is now held by Switzerland, followed by New Zealand, and then Canada. We are no longer a peer to nations like Canada, Costa Rica, and Japan, which are all rated a +10 on the Polity index.”…….

    Others have reached similar findings. The Stockholm-based International Institute for Democracy and Electoral Assistance put the United States on a list of “backsliding democracies” in a report last month.

    “The United States, the bastion of global democracy, fell victim to authoritarian tendencies itself," the report said.

    And a new survey by the academic consortium Bright Line Watch found that 17 percent of those who identify strongly as Republicans support the use of violence to restore Trump to power, and 39 percent favor doing everything possible to prevent Democrats from governing effectively……



     
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...santis-ahead-of-competing-rallies/ar-AA13N5dD

    Well, there goes my hope that Trump would be a grown up and be politically intelligent, but he is a man child it seems. It will be really hard to vote for an 80 year old for me personally. But it appears he will bet he nominee at this point and he is better than anything the Dems will try and roll out.

    Yeah, better an 80-year-old man-child that's expressed a sexual interest in his daughter than a groo- oh. Never mind.
     
    Yeah, better an 80-year-old man-child that's expressed a sexual interest in his daughter than a groo- oh. Never mind.
    Almost there but you all did elect the exact same thing this time with an old groo... that has dementia and gets lost on stage, but yeah, almost the exact same thing.
     
    Almost there but you all did elect the exact same thing this time with an old groo... that has dementia and gets lost on stage, but yeah, almost the exact same thing.

    Except, you know... Trump actually admits to it. But you still support him as being better than every single Democrat, which says a lot about either your impenetrable bubble or your utter lack of a moral compass.
     
    Except, you know... Trump actually admits to it. But you still support him as being better than every single Democrat, which says a lot about either your impenetrable bubble or your utter lack of a moral compass.
    I like Tulsi Gabbard, does that help you out any? Researching 2 party politics might help you out too.
     
    I like Tulsi Gabbard, does that help you out any? Researching 2 party politics might help you out too.
    Tulsi isn’t a democrat. For a while now. She made it official.
     
    I like Tulsi Gabbard, does that help you out any? Researching 2 party politics might help you out too.

    What does Tulsi Gabbard or a two-party system have to do with the fact that you have expressed support for a man that openly admits that he would date his daughter if he could?
     
    But you still support him as being better than every single Democrat, which says a lot about either your impenetrable bubble or your utter lack of a moral compass.
    It says everything you need to know about his impenetrable bubble AND his utter lack of a moral compass. A person willing to blatantly lie and refuse to admit his lies when caught has no moral compass and no shame. He's trumplican through and through.
     
    What does Tulsi Gabbard or a two-party system have to do with the fact that you have expressed support for a man that openly admits that he would date his daughter if he could?
    Are you saying Trump is incestious?
     
    It says everything you need to know about his impenetrable bubble AND his utter lack of a moral compass. A person willing to blatantly lie and refuse to admit his lies when caught has no moral compass and no shame. He's trumplican through and through.
    You did, but thank you none the less. I appreciate it.
     
    Are you saying Trump is incestious?

    I wouldn't be shocked if he had incestuous thoughts. He said that if Ivanka weren't his daughter, he would date her. He agreed when Howard Stern called her a "piece of arse". He's made multiple public comments about her body. I think that's gross. How about you?
     
    I wouldn't be shocked if he had incestuous thoughts. He said that if Ivanka weren't his daughter, he would date her. He agreed when Howard Stern called her a "piece of arse". He's made multiple public comments about her body. I think that's gross. How about you?
    A parent wanting to have sex with his child, yeah, pretty gross. Is that what he meant though? Can you prove that or is that what you think he meant?
     
    I think @Farb is already on record saying that if Ivanka was his daughter he'd have the same thoughts that trump has expressed about her.
    You don't think she is a pretty woman? Even if you are gay, she is a pretty lady. Also not sure if I said that, but that is cool too.
     
    A parent wanting to have sex with his child, yeah, pretty gross. Is that what he meant though? Can you prove that or is that what you think he meant?

    I never thought I would have to do this, but I'm going to define "piece of arse" for a grown adult man.

    piece of arse (plural pieces of arse)

    (US, idiomatic, colloquial, vulgar) An act of intercourse, especially a one-night stand.
    (US, idiomatic, colloquial, vulgar) A very attractive woman, when considered as a sex object.
    (rare, US, LGBT, idiomatic, colloquial, vulgar) A male prostitute.

     
    You don't think she is a pretty woman? Even if you are gay, she is a pretty lady. Also not sure if I said that, but that is cool too.
    I think Ivanka Trump is an attractive woman with a flat arse.

    I have a daughter. I think she's beautiful. There will never be an instance in this life where I will say that I think she's a "piece of arse" nor will there ever be a case where I would state that if my daughter wasn't my daughter, I'd date her. The reason is that she IS my daughter and I find the idea that a man could look at his own daughter and have thoughts about dating her and the things that go along with "dating" her reprehensible.

    I'm not certain of how your family views incest so to each his own.
     

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