How to improve American Education in 2021. (1 Viewer)

[Paul]

The most recent PISA results, from 2015, placed the U.S. an unimpressive 38th out of 71 countries in math and 24th in science. Among the 35 members of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, which sponsors the PISA initiative, the U.S. ranked 30th in math and 19th in science.

U.S. students’ academic achievement still lags that of their peers in many other countries

U.S. students continue to rank near the middle, and behind many other advanced industrial nations, in international math, science and reading assessments.

www.pewresearch.org

My suggestion is rather simple.

1. Study why immigrants from East Asia, India, and Nigeria do well with American education. Apply that insight to other groups (if possible).
2. Manage public schools as if though they were private schools with uniforms and discipline.
3. Create high end special schools for those that are truly disenfranchised.
4. Create a force of social workers to treat family dysfunction with regards to education.
5. Reduce the curriculum to the simple basics and repeat that on a yearly basis.
6. At about 10th grade divide college bound students away from non-college bound.
7. Provide solid basic education and trade training for non-college bound kids. There is no point in offering free college to these kids.

 

[Farb]

If you want to send your kids to Catholic Schools that great. I don’t. I don’t like that Catholic Schools teach molestation is acceptable and sexual predators are to be protected, and that there is an invisible guy in the sky that watches kids when they masturbate. I am not paying for your delusion and fear of the unknown.

Religion, thank Jeebus, has no bearing on reality in these Unites States. The First Amendment guarantees freedom FROM religion as much as it guarantees your right to believe in fairy tales like a woman got turned into salt.

I get it though. Being an outsider here, life isn’t what you expected so hoping for an afterlife makes sense. I get those immigrants that need religion.

And maybe I am wrong. Heck those catholic schools were good enough to get you daughters married off to white folks!

Somebody had a bad morning or didn't get his coffee, Mr. Grouchy pants.

Full of class as usual, I see though.

 

[bird]

Still waiting for answers to my questions.

 

[Paul]

I've visited the Georgetown campus probably a dozen times over the last 20 years. The Catholic symbolism, churches, architecture and even curriculum makes it pretty obviously a Catholic institution. To say someone would have no clue that it's a Catcholic institution when visiting there is frankly ignorant.

You have to attend classes. Just looking at buildings is not enough. Religion is not part of the curriculum unless you are studying religion. if you go to Europe you will see thousands of old churches and that does not mean the towns are profoundly religious. I have to respectfully say the post is very weak.

Georgetown is Jesuit school and hence Catholic, but on practical basis is a secular institution.

The student-wide Values Survey revealed yesterday that less than 1% of Georgetown students are practicing Catholics.

CARROLL'S CORNER: Student Body Less Than 1% Catholic, University Defends Labelling Itself “Catholic” - The Georgetown Review

[Editor’s Note: This is Satire.] The student-wide Values Survey revealed yesterday that less than 1% of Georgetown students are practicing Catholics. The university nevertheless declared the survey results a vindication and clung to its self-designation of being a “Full-Blooded Catholic...

gureview.org

 

[Paul]

I'm not talking about historical founding or affiliations. I'm talking about literally teaching nonsense in place of science and lies instead of history. Georgetown does not teach new earth creationism. Princeton does not teach white, capitalist Jesus. Loyola does not teach Abecka text books which ignore the reality of our historical issues with race and slavery.

Thank you!

 

[Paul]

Still waiting for answers to my questions.

You are trying to justify the bloated bureaucrasy of public schools.

 

[Farb]

Bureaucracy and 'experts' are the new clergy.

 

[MT15]

Out of curiosity: Why do you think a dress code or God forbid uniforms are a bad thing for students?

Do you think it’s a good idea to require girls’ athletic teams to wear long dresses?

 

[MT15]

Bureaucracy and 'experts' are the new clergy.

Respectfully, you’re full of shirt on this new idea, Farb. We are lost as a nation if we decide to forego listening to experts in various fields. That doesn’t mean you have to blindly follow them, but the way the right in this country is devolving into a bunch of conspiracy theorists who don’t believe basic scientific facts and rather believe people like Carlson and Jones is a national security issue.

 

[Paul]

Do you think it’s a good idea to require girls’ athletic teams to wear long dresses?

I believe schools can mandate a dress code or uniforms. What is wrong with that?
And by the way I am quite the libertarian.

 

[DaveXA]

If you want to send your kids to Catholic Schools that great. I don’t. I don’t like that Catholic Schools teach molestation is acceptable and sexual predators are to be protected, and that there is an invisible guy in the sky that watches kids when they masturbate. I am not paying for your delusion and fear of the unknown.

Religion, thank Jeebus, has no bearing on reality in these Unites States. The First Amendment guarantees freedom FROM religion as much as it guarantees your right to believe in fairy tales like a woman got turned into salt.

I get it though. Being an outsider here, life isn’t what you expected so hoping for an afterlife makes sense. I get those immigrants that need religion.

And maybe I am wrong. Heck those catholic schools were good enough to get you daughters married off to white folks!

Before I comment, two caveats. One, I grew up Catholic, but left that after I graduated from HS. And two, I'm just going to share my anecdotal experience having been in both Catholic and public schools.

I realize people have big, legitimate issues with the Church, but, having been to 2 different Catholic schools in 2 different states, one, we were never taught molestation was acceptable or that sexual predators should be protected. If anything, we were taught that those things weren't acceptable to the Church. As for the first amendment, I disagree that it's freedom from religion. Rather it's freedom of religion, meaning the government can't sanction one religion over another or establish a state religion. The reasons for it were obvious. They didn't want the Church of England telling the States what to do. So, it never was a forbidding or sanctioning, but rather allowing people to choose how to, or not to practice their religion.

As for the Catholic Church marrying off whoever, yeah. I ended up marrying a Korean non-Catholic, so I got that going for me.

 

[MT15]

I believe schools can mandate a dress code or uniforms. What is wrong with that?
And by the way I am quite the libertarian.

So you think it’s okay to ask a girls’ basketball, softball or volleyball team to compete in long dresses? I guess I shouldn’t be surprised, I’m not sure why I am actually.

 

[DaveXA]

You have to attend classes. Just looking at buildings is not enough. Religion is not part of the curriculum unless you are studying religion. if you go to Europe you will see thousands of old churches and that does not mean the towns are profoundly religious. I have to respectfully say the post is very weak.

Georgetown is Jesuit school and hence Catholic, but on practical basis is a secular institution.

The student-wide Values Survey revealed yesterday that less than 1% of Georgetown students are practicing Catholics.

CARROLL'S CORNER: Student Body Less Than 1% Catholic, University Defends Labelling Itself “Catholic” - The Georgetown Review

[Editor’s Note: This is Satire.] The student-wide Values Survey revealed yesterday that less than 1% of Georgetown students are practicing Catholics. The university nevertheless declared the survey results a vindication and clung to its self-designation of being a “Full-Blooded Catholic...

gureview.org

Man, you sure do love moving goal posts.

 

[JRad]

I realize people have big, legitimate issues with the Church, but, having been to 2 different Catholic schools in 2 different states, one, we were never taught molestation was acceptable or that sexual predators should be protected.

Maybe it was added to the curriculum after we left

 

[DaveXA]

You are trying to justify the bloated bureaucrasy of public schools.

He said no such thing.

 

[Paul]

Still waiting for answers to my questions.

I do not know the occupation of the many people that post here.

 

[Paul]

So you think it’s okay to ask a girls’ basketball, softball or volleyball team to compete in long dresses? I guess I shouldn’t be surprised, I’m not sure why I am actually.

No one does that. Girls have a PE uniform and it is not necessarily modest.

 

[bird]

I do not know the occupation of the many people that post here.

There is a reason for asking that. Maybe if you think about it then it might come to you.

 

[Paul]

There is a reason for asking that. Maybe if you think about it then it might come to you.

The reason you ask is because you want to say that those that are not in the teaching profession should not have an opinion. Please correct me if I am wrong.