Trump wants to give $5K "baby bonus" to America to raise birth rate (1 Viewer)

[superchuck500]

So the birth rate in the US has become an issue - particularly on the right where people like Elon Musk have gone on at length about how the birth rate in the US presents a long-term national security issue. Of course, on the right talk about birth rates often ends up suggesting that they're really concerned about white American birth rates more than anything else, but it is true that the US birth rate is at an all time low.

But while there are lots of systemic reasons for this, including the cost of having a child, the cost of childcare and raising a child, and the dim economic outlook for the vast majority of American children, the American conservative movement has not only shown no interest in improving these things but is actually active in making them worse. SO, Trump's plan to increase the birth rate without having to address those systemic challenges? Five thousand dollars cash!

Keep in mind: the average cost of having a baby in the US is about $18K, and the average out-of-pocket to the mother/family is about $2,500.

(oh and if you need a little 'birth-rate racism' in your day, check out the comments)

 

[efil4]

So the birth rate in the US has become an issue - particularly on the right where people like Elon Musk have gone on at length about how the birth rate in the US presents a long-term national security issue. Of course, on the right talk about birth rates often ends up suggesting that they're really concerned about white American birth rates more than anything else, but it is true that the US birth rate is at an all time low.

But while there are lots of systemic reasons for this, including the cost of having a child, the cost of childcare and raising a child, and the dim economic outlook for the vast majority of American children, the American conservative movement has not only shown no interest in improving these things but is actually active in making them worse. SO, Trump's plan to increase the birth rate without having to address those systemic challenges? Five thousand dollars cash!

Keep in mind: the average cost of having a baby in the US is about $18K, and the average out-of-pocket to the mother/family is about $2,500.

(oh and if you need a little 'birth-rate racism' in your day, check out the comments)

this wasnt an original idea.

He just following his idol

Russia’s latest move to combat low birth rates? Paying students to have kids - National | Globalnews.ca

Russia, increasingly panicked by a low birth rate and decline in population, is offering young university students money to have babies while they earn an education.

globalnews.ca

Baby bonus for students: Russia pays ₹81,000 as birth rates hit 25-year low - Baby bonus for students: Russia pays ₹81,000 as birth rates hit 25 year low BusinessToday

This initiative is part of Russia’s broader strategy to reverse its population decline, which has reached historic lows.

www.businesstoday.in

Russian students can now get cash payments for having babies as Kremlin struggles with birth rate at ‘catastrophic’ low

Female college students in some Russian regions can get 100,000 rubles, or about $900 at current exchange rates, for having a baby.

fortune.com

 

[fooferdoggie]

this wasnt an original idea.

He just following his idol

Russia’s latest move to combat low birth rates? Paying students to have kids - National | Globalnews.ca

Russia, increasingly panicked by a low birth rate and decline in population, is offering young university students money to have babies while they earn an education.

globalnews.ca

Baby bonus for students: Russia pays ₹81,000 as birth rates hit 25-year low - Baby bonus for students: Russia pays ₹81,000 as birth rates hit 25 year low BusinessToday

This initiative is part of Russia’s broader strategy to reverse its population decline, which has reached historic lows.

www.businesstoday.in

Russian students can now get cash payments for having babies as Kremlin struggles with birth rate at ‘catastrophic’ low

Female college students in some Russian regions can get 100,000 rubles, or about $900 at current exchange rates, for having a baby.

fortune.com

yep, and how are they going to make sure only white couples get the money without flat out saying its only whites that will get this? Like, there is a baby crisis in the us. what a forking racist idiot.

 

[Optimus Prime]

I’ve posted about them before

Oh, and their kids definitely belong in the pretentious name thread on EE
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Malcolm and Simone Collins have their own religion. They celebrate their own holidays.

Three of their kids — five-year-old Octavian George, three-year-old Torsten Savage, and two-year-old Titan Invictus — sleep in multi-level bunk beds in the same room, while the youngest, one-year-old Industry Americus, co-sleeps with their pregnant mother.

There’s a decorative sword on the windowsill, a prop left over from one of their podcast episodes about Andrew Tate.

There are raspberry bushes planted outside so their kids can pick fruit on their way home from daycare. There’s a $300 bouncy castle in their living room.

Once Silicon Valley progressives who worked in tech, Malcolm and Simone upped sticks to rural Pennsylvania a couple of years ago, in their early 30s. They had become disillusioned with “the urban monoculture”.

They wanted lots of babies. And they envisioned that large family — they’re hoping for 14 kids — being run like a domestic operating system, with a religion they refer to as Techno-Puritanism.

Oh, and they proselytize through a podcast called Based Camp, with over 35,000 followers.

The Collinses are a controversial couple, much profiled but little understood. Not many venture capitalists with Stanford MBAs turn to pro-natalist homesteading.

And not many “new right” tradwives used to work as managing directors of a Peter Thiel-funded social club.

Simone wants to set a world record for number of live births via C-section (the current record is 11; she thinks she can get up to 14.)

On their first date, Simone told Malcolm she never wanted to get married, and Malcolm told her that wouldn’t work because he was looking for a wife. They joke about how most media has painted them as “complete sociopaths”.…..

Simone and Malcolm Collins have a plan — not just for their household, but for humanity.

Every domestic choice, from when the family sleeps to how they name their children, is part of a broader effort to design a cultural system that will outlast the civilization they believe is unraveling.

Their other suggestions to Trump included the removal of some daycare regulations and the doubling of visas available for au pairs from abroad, so that American parents can access cheaper childcare; the removal of the marriage tax penalty; and the relaxing of car seat regulations

(a research paper titled “Car Seats as Contraception” that showed lower birth rates in places with stricter child seat regulations for cars is much discussed among pronatalist communities, and quoted in Simone and Malcolm’s draft executive order.)

The fact sheet that they attached to each draft includes stats about how quickly the birth rate in the U.S. is falling, and how disastrous that could be for social security and the country’s economic stability……

Meet the pronatalist ’trad’ parents telling Trump how to increase birth rates

Simone and Malcolm Collins started out with two elite degrees, a startup and a progressive vision for the future. Now, they’re the internet’s most hated couple, raising their kids inside a new religion in rural Pennsylvania and professing admiration for the ‘new right’. Is there nuance behind...

www.independent.co.uk

 

[coldseat]

I’ve posted about them before

Oh, and their kids definitely belong in the pretentious name thread on EE
==================

Malcolm and Simone Collins have their own religion. They celebrate their own holidays.

Three of their kids — five-year-old Octavian George, three-year-old Torsten Savage, and two-year-old Titan Invictus — sleep in multi-level bunk beds in the same room, while the youngest, one-year-old Industry Americus, co-sleeps with their pregnant mother.

There’s a decorative sword on the windowsill, a prop left over from one of their podcast episodes about Andrew Tate.

There are raspberry bushes planted outside so their kids can pick fruit on their way home from daycare. There’s a $300 bouncy castle in their living room.

Once Silicon Valley progressives who worked in tech, Malcolm and Simone upped sticks to rural Pennsylvania a couple of years ago, in their early 30s. They had become disillusioned with “the urban monoculture”.

They wanted lots of babies. And they envisioned that large family — they’re hoping for 14 kids — being run like a domestic operating system, with a religion they refer to as Techno-Puritanism.

Oh, and they proselytize through a podcast called Based Camp, with over 35,000 followers.

The Collinses are a controversial couple, much profiled but little understood. Not many venture capitalists with Stanford MBAs turn to pro-natalist homesteading.

And not many “new right” tradwives used to work as managing directors of a Peter Thiel-funded social club.

Simone wants to set a world record for number of live births via C-section (the current record is 11; she thinks she can get up to 14.)

On their first date, Simone told Malcolm she never wanted to get married, and Malcolm told her that wouldn’t work because he was looking for a wife. They joke about how most media has painted them as “complete sociopaths”.…..

Simone and Malcolm Collins have a plan — not just for their household, but for humanity.

Every domestic choice, from when the family sleeps to how they name their children, is part of a broader effort to design a cultural system that will outlast the civilization they believe is unraveling.

Their other suggestions to Trump included the removal of some daycare regulations and the doubling of visas available for au pairs from abroad, so that American parents can access cheaper childcare; the removal of the marriage tax penalty; and the relaxing of car seat regulations

(a research paper titled “Car Seats as Contraception” that showed lower birth rates in places with stricter child seat regulations for cars is much discussed among pronatalist communities, and quoted in Simone and Malcolm’s draft executive order.)

The fact sheet that they attached to each draft includes stats about how quickly the birth rate in the U.S. is falling, and how disastrous that could be for social security and the country’s economic stability……

Meet the pronatalist ’trad’ parents telling Trump how to increase birth rates

Simone and Malcolm Collins started out with two elite degrees, a startup and a progressive vision for the future. Now, they’re the internet’s most hated couple, raising their kids inside a new religion in rural Pennsylvania and professing admiration for the ‘new right’. Is there nuance behind...

www.independent.co.uk

They look like siblings. Yikes!

 

[fooferdoggie]

I’ve posted about them before

Oh, and their kids definitely belong in the pretentious name thread on EE
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Malcolm and Simone Collins have their own religion. They celebrate their own holidays.

as usual trump picks the best people.

 

[samiam5211]

Elon trying to get child support standardized.

 

[fooferdoggie]

Elon trying to get child support standardized.

I bet he skips paying his share, he is like that.