Trump declares Biden pardons invalid

[superchuck500]

We’ll see if this makes it into anything official but it seems pretty stupid to me - I don’t think there are any requirements on how a pardon is signed, only that the president endorsed it.

 

[UncleTrvlingJim]

i've noticed a lot of chatter on right wing sites about Biden's use of autosign. It has just now trickled up to Trump. What's not surprising is Trump himself uses autosign for many of his EO's and such.

 

[superchuck500]

i've noticed a lot of chatter on right wing sites about Biden's use of autosign. It has just now trickled up to Trump. What's not surprising is Trump himself uses autosign for many of his EO's and such.

It's entirely baseless - you can sign a multi-billion dollar real estate deal or adopt children with an electronic signature, it's legal and valid under federal law. The accusation that Biden didn't know about it is the only one that matters, but that's pretty nonsensical.

 

[efil4]

It's entirely baseless - you can sign a multi-billion dollar real estate deal or adopt children with an electronic signature, it's legal and valid under federal law. The accusation that Biden didn't know about it is the only one that matters, but that's pretty nonsensical.

i was just coming to ask if my recent purchase via docusign is null and void lol.

Along with the 1000s of insureds over last 12 months that have signed insurance contracts via docusign.

 

[J-DONK]

You loudly declare a lot of things, it doesn't make it legally binding.

It reminds me of this:

 

[RobF]

The accusation that Biden didn't know about it is the only one that matters, but that's pretty nonsensical.

That seems like a complete non-starter. Obviously there's statements about them - e.g. https://bidenwhitehouse.archives.go.../01/20/statement-from-president-joe-biden-15/ - but I suppose, hypothetically, they could argue he didn't write it and was somehow unaware of it.

But he was asked about whether he was thinking about it in a USA Today interview in January as well (https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/...8/joe-biden-interview-transcript/77490912007/):

PAGE: Mr. President, your term is not over yet. You're still doing things every day. Some of your supporters have encouraged you to issue preemptive pardons to people like Liz Cheney and Anthony Fauci, who Trump has threatened to target. Will you do that?​

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BIDEN: Well, a little bit of it depends on who he puts in what positions.​

So the argument would have to be that he was thinking of doing it, but... what? Then he didn't, but someone else did it behind his back? It's ludicrous.

 

[coldseat]

This is stupid. Let's see if the courts entertain it or if they laugh it out of court like the need too.

 

[superchuck500]

That seems like a complete non-starter. Obviously there's statements about them - e.g. https://bidenwhitehouse.archives.go.../01/20/statement-from-president-joe-biden-15/ - but I suppose, hypothetically, they could argue he didn't write it and was somehow unaware of it.

But he was asked about whether he was thinking about it in a USA Today interview in January as well (https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/...8/joe-biden-interview-transcript/77490912007/):

PAGE: Mr. President, your term is not over yet. You're still doing things every day. Some of your supporters have encouraged you to issue preemptive pardons to people like Liz Cheney and Anthony Fauci, who Trump has threatened to target. Will you do that?​

​

BIDEN: Well, a little bit of it depends on who he puts in what positions.​

So the argument would have to be that he was thinking of doing it, but... what? Then he didn't, but someone else did it behind his back? It's ludicrous.

Yeah, it's bad shirt nonsense to please his MAGA brownshirts.

 

[fooferdoggie]

We’ll see if this makes it into anything official but it seems pretty stupid to me - I don’t think there are any requirements on how a pardon is signed, only that the president endorsed it.

when he does it himself its fine what a pimple on America arse.

 

[zztop]

i've noticed a lot of chatter on right wing sites about Biden's use of autosign. It has just now trickled up to Trump. What's not surprising is Trump himself uses autosign for many of his EO's and such.

republican motto: "it's okay when we do it"

 

[fooferdoggie]

This is stupid. Let's see if the courts entertain it or if they laugh it out of court like the need too.

I think this is all he needs to do is say it and thats the effect he wants. doubt it will go farther but who knows?