Ruth Bader Ginsburg has passed (Replaced by Amy Coney Barrett)(Now Abortion Discussion) (1 Viewer)

[GrandAdmiral]

Ugh... breaking news I DID NOT want to see.

ETA: Reported on CNN.

 

[insidejob]

Once again, @Farb completely exposed, and once again, he will deflect.

What happened? Why didn't he answer?

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

He'll wait a day, ignore it, then reply to a different post. Its crazy how he completly forgets his own words..lol

 

[Farb]

It is?





Suddenly claiming that it isn't a religious stance doesn't change anything. All it does is make you disingenuous.

Ok. Reading comprehension has never been your strong point.

 

[Farb]

Yes you absolutely are talking about a woman’s body. You are demanding that women go through something that will change their bodies forever, and may cost her life for your religious belief that the embryo is a full person with rights that supersede the woman’s control over her own body.

What if it’s a 12 year old girl who is pregnant? Do you fell the same way? Do you force a child to carry the pregnancy? Her body will suffer more than an adult woman will during pregnancy. There is a greater chance she will have serious complications, both physically and mentally.

The parents made that decision to possibly change their bodies/life when the engaged in the one biological act that will produce a new human. It is not a surprise, or shouldn't be when this happens.

Can you list (you probably can because the list would be super small) the 12 year olds in this country that get pregnant? How many through incest, another rare example?

 

[Farb]

He'll wait a day, ignore it, then reply to a different post. Its crazy how he completly forgets his own words..lol

Ignore what?

 

[MT15]

The parents made that decision to possibly change their bodies/life when the engaged in the one biological act that will produce a new human. It is not a surprise, or shouldn't be when this happens.

Can you list (you probably can because the list would be super small) the 12 year olds in this country that get pregnant? How many through incest, another rare example?

You’ve got to be kidding, right? How many would be acceptable to you?

Also, if you think incest is rare, well, define rare? It’s not really all that rare, sadly. And most 12 yo who get pregnant are the victims of incest, so they are definitely related. And these 12 yo children are far more likely to not even realize they are pregnant before the arbitrary deadlines set by judgmental men following a religious belief are passed, therefore punishing them again for the sins of their rapists. But that’s not a big deal to you, evidently.

You actually have a pretty messed up view of sex, although I cannot blame you for it. The church teaches that the only reason to have sex is for procreation, correct? Any other reason is a sin? The church has been wrong so many times in history. This is just another example. The fact that these tenets tend to disproportionately punish women is no coincidence, IMO.

 

[MT15]

Authorities estimate about 10% of families experience incest. - that’s from a study done in the 1980s that I forgot to link.

Here is Wiki’s blurb (emphasis mine):

“Sex between an adult family member and a child is usually considered a form of child sexual abuse,[91] also known as child incestuous abuse,[92] and for many years has been the most reported form of incest. Father–daughter and stepfather–stepdaughter sex is the most commonly reported form of adult–child incest, with most of the remaining involving a mother or stepmother.[93] Many studies found that stepfathers tend to be far more likely than biological fathers to engage in this form of incest. One study of adult women in San Francisco estimated that 17% of women were abused by stepfathers and 2% were abused by biological fathers.[94] Father–son incest is reported less often, but it is not known how close the frequency is to heterosexual incest because it is likely more under-reported.[95][96][97][98] Prevalence of incest between parents and their children is difficult to estimate due to secrecy and privacy.”

Incest isn’t rare. At all.

 

[Taurus]

The parents made that decision to possibly change their bodies/life when the engaged in the one biological act that will produce a new human. It is not a surprise, or shouldn't be when this happens.

Can you list (you probably can because the list would be super small) the 12 year olds in this country that get pregnant? How many through incest, another rare example?

Except that you yourself have admitted that consent at the start of something doesn't equate to consent throughout the whole process.

 

[brandon]

Ignore what?

Exactly.

 

[Port City JJ]

The parents made that decision to possibly change their bodies/life when the engaged in the one biological act that will produce a new human. It is not a surprise, or shouldn't be when this happens.

Can you list (you probably can because the list would be super small) the 12 year olds in this country that get pregnant? How many through incest, another rare example?

3 out of 10 American Girls get pregnant before the age 20

Pregnancy is the number 1 cause for girls to stop their education and drop out

Teen pregnancy is strongly linked to poverty, with low income level associated with higher teen birth rates.




This shirt isn't rocket science or newly unearthed information. We have literally known all these facts since the 70s, but in America we don't care because when we read "poverty" we translate it to "Black." While it's not a cognitive hate based decision, it is documented and present even if we want to ignore it.

To better understand some of these issues I recommend watching the Netflix documentary "13th" and follow that up with reading some scholarly papers regarding teen pregnancy. I'll dig up a few and post some links:

Teen pregnancy and urban youth: Competing truths, complacency, and perceptions of the problem

nyuscholars.nyu.edu

Teen pregnancy and the achievement gap among urban minority youth - PubMed

Nonmarital teen births are highly and disproportionately prevalent among school-aged urban minority youth, have a negative impact on educational attainment, and effective practices are available for schools to address this problem. Teen pregnancy exerts an important influence on educational...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Racial and Ethnic Disparities in Receipt of Sexual Health Care and Education Among A Nationally Representative Sample of Adolescent Females - PubMed

We identified racial/ethnic disparities in sexual health outcomes and in SRH and education; however, SRH care and education can mitigate some of these differences in sexual behaviors and outcomes. Racial/ethnic differences in sexual health outcomes may be at least partially related to the...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Ok. Reading comprehension has never been your strong point.

And honesty has never been yours, but keep on pretending like we can't go back and read where you said exactly the thing you now deny.

 

[Farb]

Authorities estimate about 10% of families experience incest. - that’s from a study done in the 1980s that I forgot to link.

Here is Wiki’s blurb (emphasis mine):

“Sex between an adult family member and a child is usually considered a form of child sexual abuse,[91] also known as child incestuous abuse,[92] and for many years has been the most reported form of incest. Father–daughter and stepfather–stepdaughter sex is the most commonly reported form of adult–child incest, with most of the remaining involving a mother or stepmother.[93] Many studies found that stepfathers tend to be far more likely than biological fathers to engage in this form of incest. One study of adult women in San Francisco estimated that 17% of women were abused by stepfathers and 2% were abused by biological fathers.[94] Father–son incest is reported less often, but it is not known how close the frequency is to heterosexual incest because it is likely more under-reported.[95][96][97][98] Prevalence of incest between parents and their children is difficult to estimate due to secrecy and privacy.”

Incest isn’t rare. At all.

Don't worry, it is only a short time before the alt-left tries and makes incest more mainstream. Who knows, incesters might be born that way?

 

[Farb]

Except that you yourself have admitted that consent at the start of something doesn't equate to consent throughout the whole process.

I don't believe consent for murder of an innocent is actually consent at all.

 

[Farb]

And honesty has never been yours, but keep on pretending like we can't go back and read where you said exactly the thing you now deny.

Would love to see it.

 

[Farb]

3 out of 10 American Girls get pregnant before the age 20

Pregnancy is the number 1 cause for girls to stop their education and drop out

Teen pregnancy is strongly linked to poverty, with low income level associated with higher teen birth rates.




This shirt isn't rocket science or newly unearthed information. We have literally known all these facts since the 70s, but in America we don't care because when we read "poverty" we translate it to "Black." While it's not a cognitive hate based decision, it is documented and present even if we want to ignore it.

To better understand some of these issues I recommend watching the Netflix documentary "13th" and follow that up with reading some scholarly papers regarding teen pregnancy. I'll dig up a few and post some links:

Teen pregnancy and urban youth: Competing truths, complacency, and perceptions of the problem

nyuscholars.nyu.edu

Teen pregnancy and the achievement gap among urban minority youth - PubMed

Nonmarital teen births are highly and disproportionately prevalent among school-aged urban minority youth, have a negative impact on educational attainment, and effective practices are available for schools to address this problem. Teen pregnancy exerts an important influence on educational...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Racial and Ethnic Disparities in Receipt of Sexual Health Care and Education Among A Nationally Representative Sample of Adolescent Females - PubMed

We identified racial/ethnic disparities in sexual health outcomes and in SRH and education; however, SRH care and education can mitigate some of these differences in sexual behaviors and outcomes. Racial/ethnic differences in sexual health outcomes may be at least partially related to the...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Is this a new development? Did this catch everyone off guard?
Sounds like young kids need to stop having sex and then what? The issue goes away? But yeah, killing a life is an easier way to clean it up.

Self accountability

 

[Taurus]

I don't believe consent for murder of an innocent is actually consent at all.

That wasn't the issue and you know it. But keep being a good parrot, it totally works.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

I don't believe consent for murder of an innocent is actually consent at all.

Yet you support the death penalty which has resulted in the death of innocent people. Your views are incredibly inconsistent.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Would love to see it.

I did. I quoted you. You brushed it off as what you perceive to be my inability to comprehend. If that's not enough, this was your next response to me on the topic of codifying your stance on abortion into law:

Oh, there is a misunderstanding. I am 100% behind making Christian beliefs into law. I am fan of western civilization.

So please, keep lying about how it's not a religious belief.