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    Very interesting article that isn't really political
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    How do you define the good old days?

    The plucky poll slingers at YouGov, who are consistently willing to use their elite-tier survey skills in service of measuring the unmeasurable, asked 2,000 adults which decade had the best and worst music, movies, economy and so forth, across 20 measures. But when we charted them, no consistent pattern emerged.

    We did spot some peaks: When asked which decade had the most moral society, the happiest families or the closest-knit communities, White people and Republicans were about twice as likely as Black people and Democrats to point to the 1950s. The difference probably depends on whether you remember that particular decade for “Leave it to Beaver,” drive-in theaters and “12 Angry Men” — or the Red Scare, the murder of Emmett Till and massive resistance to school integration.

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    “This was a time when Repubs were pretty much running the show and had reason to be happy,” pioneering nostalgia researcher Morris Holbrook told us via email. “Apparently, you could argue that nostalgia is colored by political preferences. Surprise, surprise.”

    And he’s right! But any political, racial or gender divides were dwarfed by what happened when we charted the data by generation. Age, more than anything, determines when you think America peaked.

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    So, we looked at the data another way, measuring the gap between each person’s birth year and their ideal decade. The consistency of the resulting pattern delighted us: It shows that Americans feel nostalgia not for a specific era, but for a specific age.

    The good old days when America was “great” aren’t the 1950s. They’re whatever decade you were 11, your parents knew the correct answer to any question, and you’d never heard of war crimes tribunals, microplastics or improvised explosive devices. Or when you were 15 and athletes and musicians still played hard and hadn’t sold out.

    Not every flavor of nostalgia peaks as sharply as music does. But by distilling them to the most popular age for each question, we can chart a simple life cycle of nostalgia............


     
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    1973 again lets have fun here. There are many threads we can bash Trump on. Post videos of you when your were 11 years old. Thanks Optimus.

     
    1973 again lets have fun here. There are many threads we can bash Trump on. Post videos of you when your were 11 years old. Thanks Optimus.


    Uhmmm....there was no video recording in 1973 and it still wasn't a thing when I was 11. I only knew of one family that had a Super 8 camera and they only used it 3 times.
     
    Spot on.. I was 13 when 9/11 happened and that's the great divide in my head.. ah, what I would give to go back to the time where I didn't know what a terrorist was.

    Demographically I should say the 90's were the best. Maybe, that's why I think that. It was by far the most optimistic decade I've personally experienced. The cold war ended. We kicked butt in Iraq while leading the entire world as the lone superpower. The internet was kicking off, and we all knew by then it was going to be big, and life changing. However, social media wasn't around yet. The dot com crash/2000 election was the storm clouds gathering, but 9/11 was the hammerfall.
     
    best live performance ever in my opinion. Moon at the peak of his greatness.


    They actually have a pretty cool museum at the site of Woodstock. They have a marker at the original field, where they cut the grass to show a huge peace sign. The museum has all kinds of memorabilia and tells what it was like with some local flavor. It’s worth a stop if you are traveling close by.
     
    I find it interesting that you can find editorials from the late 1800’s complaining that “people don’t want to work.”

    Also, one wonders whether this “greatest nation on earth” crap is not simply the agitprop of “patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel”.
     
    best live performance ever in my opinion. Moon at the peak of his greatness.


    I have always liked Live at Leeds. Also you can search YouTube for John Entwistle bass solo during 5:15 at the Royal Albert Hall. Absolutely killer. (Edited because I obviously can’t spell)
     
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    I truly miss the horn section. It was another voice.






    I truly miss Terry Kath. Chicago was never the same band after he passed.....I think he would have left Chicago eventually (to pop boy Peter Cetera) anyways and started his own thing, he was really a fusion/progressive player.....

    Hey, When the Levee Breaks is quite possibly the best song on that album. Yeah, I said it, lol.

    I vote Misty Mountain Hop.....Stairway is among my least favorite LZ songs....
    So it's not just youth rebelling against the current party in authority over them. It's the youth specifically rejecting Republicans, their values and their policies.

    It's one value that is the cause IMO, the value the R's have that one can have dominion over a woman's own body....
    Demographically I should say the 90's were the best. Maybe, that's why I think that. It was by far the most optimistic decade I've personally experienced. The cold war ended. We kicked butt in Iraq while leading the entire world as the lone superpower. The internet was kicking off, and we all knew by then it was going to be big, and life changing. However, social media wasn't around yet. The dot com crash/2000 election was the storm clouds gathering, but 9/11 was the hammerfall.

    The 90's were great, especially the early 90's, was single living with musician (and fishing) friends, no real responsibilities other than to show up for work.....And I credit what is called "the grunge movement" for briefly bringing music back to the instruments......But music wise the mid 60's - mid 70's cannot be matched, it was all brand new....
     

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