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    Krodwhodat said:
    I think Trump trying to get back to the mic is what allowed him to be seen. I wouldn’t blame it on Trump. I’m pretty sure in training the President is supposed to duck and run to the vehicle, whether it’s arrogance or adrenaline or shock Trump made the wrong move. Trump is a big man and it’s not easy moving someone his size who doesn’t want to move.
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    There were what? Five of them? They should have over-rode his wishes and got him out of there. As it is all he did was pump up the crowd and they responded with hateful behavior toward the press that was there.
     
    MT15 said:
    I just read that one person in the crowd was killed and anither in serious condition.

    Probably not a BB gun.
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    Yeah. Saw that. I was hoping for the best. The videos out there are messy.
     
    MT15 said:
    There were what? Five of them? They should have over-rode his wishes and got him out of there. As it is all he did was pump up the crowd and they responded with hateful behavior toward the press that was there.
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    I didn’t hear anything about hateful behavior. I see people from the rally talking on all new outlets and being very respectful. I haven’t heard or seen anything to that affect. Do you have any videos?
     
    Krodwhodat said:
    I didn’t hear anything about hateful behavior. I see people from the rally talking on all new outlets and being very respectful. I haven’t heard or seen anything to that affect. Do you have any videos?
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    No, I saw it live on TV on CBS. Men were screaming and giving the finger toward the cameras. Their reporter had a security guard hovering just behind him.

    They have security at all Trump rallies. They are subject to hate at every one.
     
    SaintForLife said:
    And yet you fell for the biggest conspiracy of all time in Russiagate. Your spider senses are garbage.
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    I don't entirely buy everything with it and I don't entirely dismiss everything with it either.. because it's a bunch of convoluted bullshirt.. Even when we went back and forth in conversations on here, things were not definitive to me either way in areas. I will say that when Barr testified that he believed the Russians hacked the DNC, that had an impact. All I ever really wanted to know was what happened though, I never really had any really predefined notions of it and I'm pretty confident you can fact-check me on that.
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    But yeah, you could have just said you were wrong in the past and I actually would have liked your post.. but like I said, it's different to you when it's the other side.
     
    MT15 said:
    No, I saw it live on TV on CBS. Men were screaming and giving the finger toward the cameras. Their reporter had a security guard hovering just behind him.

    They have security at all Trump rallies. They are subject to hate at every one.
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    I guess I’ll have to see it because so I can see the context. At this point it’s chaos. ABC was at first saying he wasn’t shot and that the secret service cut his ear taking him down even though it’s obvious he grabbed his ear before.

    Trump haters will see this through the window that makes them feel better, the Trump lovers will do the same and the people who aren’t polarized on either side will see it for what it is.
     
    I'm sure glad I decided to go have a beer instead of jumping into this thread moments after it was started.

    It gave me time to think.

    There's no point in going conspiracy on this one because this one is going to have a very thorough investigation by Federal investigators.

    If it were staged there's no way that will not be uncovered, and that would be a crime and charges would be considered, talked about, if not brought. There has to be a perturbator. They have to be caught.

    There is stagecraft which could create that illusion, but not for an event which will undergo a thorough investigation. It could fool a hollywood audience at a theater. It wouldn't fool a doctor who treats that wound.

    *I* threw in that oblique call out to James Kent just for fun.
     
    Krodwhodat said:
    I guess I’ll have to see it because so I can see the context. At this point it’s chaos. ABC was at first saying he wasn’t shot and that the secret service cut his ear taking him down even though it’s obvious he grabbed his ear before.

    Trump haters will see this through the window that makes them feel better, the Trump lovers will do the same and the people who aren’t polarized on either side will see it for what it is.
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    Someone else saw it too, it wasn’t just me. If you look for the videos you will find them. It’s odd that you wouldn’t believe this. The press gets that treatment at every Trump rally.

     
    Incumbent said:
    Is there anybody with a Twitter account who can confirm if this is real tweet from Representative Mike Collins?

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    MT15 said:
    Someone else saw it too, it wasn’t just me. If you look for the videos you will find them. It’s odd that you wouldn’t believe this. The press gets that treatment at every Trump rally.

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    I don’t know who this guy is but I’m sure he is a liberal who hates Trump and Republicans. I don’t live in an echo chamber. They could have been flipping off the shooter, the context could be totally different. The media gets what both parties think they deserve. Look at how quick you guys turned on CNN and blamed them for Bidens debate debacle when you needed a punching bag.
     
    J-DONK said:
    There is no way Trump trusted someone to shoot his ear. That's millimeters from your dome.
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    To be fair I didn’t see anybody pushing the staged angle say that it was a shot - in the immediate aftermath when it seemed like nobody else was hurt - people said it looked like a WWE stunt where the guy goes down and while covered up pops a blood capsule.

    I still blame Alex Jones for this mindset. Well, the entire “fake news” movement really.
     
    Krodwhodat said:
    I don’t know who this guy is but I’m sure he is a liberal who hates Trump and Republicans. I don’t live in an echo chamber. They could have been flipping off the shooter, the context could be totally different. The media gets what both parties think they deserve. Look at how quick you guys turned on CNN and blamed them for Bidens debate debacle when you needed a punching bag.
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    I saw it happen live. They were screaming at the reporter and flipping off the camera. Good lord, you have surely seen this type of behavior before toward the press at Trump rallies?

    What a weird hill to take a stand on.
     
    SamAndreas said:
    I'm sure glad I decided to go have a beer instead of jumping into this thread moments after it was started.

    It gave me time to think.

    There's no point in going conspiracy on this one because this one is going to have a very thorough investigation by Federal investigators.

    If it were staged there's no way that will not be uncovered, and that would be a crime and charges would be considered, talked about, if not brought. There has to be a perturbator. They have to be caught.

    There is stagecraft which could create that illusion, but not for an event which will undergo a thorough investigation. It could fool a hollywood audience at a theater. It wouldn't fool a doctor who treats that wound.

    *I* threw in that oblique call out to James Kent just for fun.
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    MT15 said:
    To be fair I didn’t see anybody pushing the staged angle say that it was a shot - in the immediate aftermath when it seemed like nobody else was hurt - people said it looked like a WWE stunt where the guy goes down and while covered up pops a blood capsule.

    I still blame Alex Jones for this mindset. Well, the entire “fake news” movement really.
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    Which is the kind of bush-league play I'd expect from Trumpco. It's the same crew who did a press conference at a garden store and let Giuliani go on camera with shoeblack oozing down his face.

    I'm prepared to accept the investigation results, however.

    If he was shot, we need to find and try the perpetrator.

    If it's a fake, same thing.
     
    bdb13 said:
    This is just me being middle ground guy who can see the shirt for what it is.. You're the partisan that can't.
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    He's not, never has been and will never be anything more than a partisan troll. He has absolutely no self awareness and not worth engaging. I humor him every now and then, but just know he'll never engage in good faith dialogue.
     
    brandon said:
    Biden gonna have to respond soon.
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    Yes. This is horrible. Biden needs to condemn this violence immediately. No matter what we think of Trump, we can’t become a country where our candidates are killed or attacked. We need to be United as Americans in condemning this.
     

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