Epstein and Trump (1 Viewer)

I figured we may as well have a separate thread. I’m thinking this story should be looked at with more scrutiny.

Here is an affidavit from a person who witnessed Trump having sex with a 13 yo girl at Epstein’s NY home. Her identity was sealed from the public. These women and girls who came forward were receiving credible death threats as I understand it.

It's incredibly frustrating that this isn't a bigger story. It's infuriating that many of the same people who have politically weaponized pedophilia refuse to scrutinize their leader in light of longstanding and mounting evidence, including words from his own mouth, demonstrating his horrible character and the way he sexually objectifies women and girls.

Glad you started a separate thread, this should certainly be highlighted.

Yes. Had to go for an appointment but will add more later.

Incumbent said:

It's incredibly frustrating that this isn't a bigger story. It's infuriating that many of the same people who have politically weaponized pedophilia refuse to scrutinize their leader in light of longstanding and mounting evidence, including words from his own mouth, demonstrating his horrible character and the way he sexually objectifies women and girls.

Glad you started a separate thread, this should certainly be highlighted.

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sad part about this is it would not stop the Christian right from supporting him.

fooferdoggie said:

sad part about this is it would not stop the Christian right from supporting him.

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Does not stop them now.

MT15 said:

Here is an affidavit from a person who witnessed Trump having sex with a 13 yo girl at Epstein’s NY home.

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"It was an offical act. IMMUNE!!!"

-The SCOTUS Six most likely

fooferdoggie said:

sad part about this is it would not stop the Christian right from supporting him.

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Not even if there was video

GrandAdmiral said:

"It was an offical act. IMMUNE!!!"

-The SCOTUS Six most likely

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I know this is a joke, but this happened a while ago, before Trump ever even considered politics.

Very rich people like to hang around other very rich people. Rich and powerful people like to hang around famous rich celebrities

I think the people around Epstein fall into three categories:

1. Those who knew and participated in this abominable sex ring

2. Those who didn’t participate but knew or suspected or heard rumors

3. Those who truly had no idea, but hung around Epstein because he was very rich and powerful

Everyone connected with Epstein in any way is going to swear they are in group three

Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg and any number of other billionaires (those we’ve heard of and those we haven’t) if in 5, 10, 20 years it comes out that one was hosting sex parties, underage sex parties or an illegal supper club (who wants to eat an endangered animal?) a ton of celebrities (and photos) will be connected and revealed (OMG! Look at this picture of X with Matt Damon!!!)

And they’ll fall into one of the same three categories

MT15 said:

I know this is a joke, but this happened a while ago, before Trump ever even considered politics.

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Dah...

This is the part of Katie Johnson’s sworn affidavit concerning Trump. She later admitted she was lying when she said she had videotapes of some sexual encounters. She claimed she lied about the tapes to protect her from being murdered. She still received death threats, and ultimately the case was dropped. As far as I know, she never recanted this testimony about Trump.

MT15 said:

This is the part of Katie Johnson’s sworn affidavit concerning Trump. She later admitted she was lying when she said she had videotapes of some sexual encounters. She claimed she lied about the tapes to protect her from being murdered. She still received death threats, and ultimately the case was dropped. As far as I know, she never recanted this testimony about Trump.

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we know trumps past with women so I have no doubt about this.

This all fits his previously described behavior with women, so I also tend to believe these sworn statements.

Here is a Google Drive containing a lot of court documents. In case anyone wants to pore through them.

This thread reminded me of these articles:

Incumbent said:

It's incredibly frustrating that this isn't a bigger story. It's infuriating that many of the same people who have politically weaponized pedophilia refuse to scrutinize their leader in light of longstanding and mounting evidence, including words from his own mouth, demonstrating his horrible character and the way he sexually objectifies women and girls.

Glad you started a separate thread, this should certainly be highlighted.

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That because it's not true. The top Epstein reporter who's no fan of Trump:



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These kinds of posts defy logic yet y'all are retweeting this propaganda.


Rest if the post and it's spot on:

This is a myth that seems to have spread in social media in the past week, my guess is to distract from coverage of Biden's age.

SaintForLife said:

That because it's not true. The top Epstein reporter who's no fan of Trump:

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Once again, from one of the articles I cited:


Miami Herald reporter Julie Brown noted in an interview with MSNBC that Trump also took advantage of Epstein's private jet, though perhaps not as much as Epstein's other associates, "because, you know, Trump had his own plane."

"But they had a lot of social relationships," Brown, who exposed the ramifications of Epstein's secret plea deal, told MSNBC. "And the other interesting thing is Trump had a modeling agency, and Epstein also had a stake in a modeling agency, which they suspect he used to bring in underage girls from overseas."

"There is a comment in one of the court files where Epstein is quoted as saying, 'I want to set up my modeling agency the same way Trump set up his modeling agency,'" Brown continued. "I don't know what that means, but it is curious he was trying to do something similar to Trump."

In 2015, a Gawker writer reached out to Trump about his name appearing in Epstein's black book. A spokesperson for Trump responded with "Mr. Trump only knew Mr. Epstein as Mr. Trump owns the hottest and most luxurious club in Palm Beach, [redacted], and Mr. Epstein would go there on occasion

Trump was once accused of raping a 13-year-old girl at Epstein's Manhattan residence, but the case was dismissed​

A suit alleging that Trump knowingly raped a 13-year-old in Epstein's Manhattan residence was filed in 2016, but was then voluntarily dismissed by the anonymous Jane Doe accuser.

The complaint, brought against Trump and Epstein, alleged that the victim attended multiple parties at Epstein's residence in the summer of 1994, that Trump also attended. An anonymous witness claimed to be an employee of Epstein.

The plaintiff alleged that she "was enticed by promises of money and a modeling career to attend a series of parties, with other similarly situated minor females" at Epstein's Manhattan residence. Trump was said to have attended at least four of the same parties, and to have known the plaintiff was 13 years old, since he knew her for the previous seven years, too.

The document alleged that Trump repeatedly initiated sexual contact with the plaintiff, then on the fourth encounter at one of Epstein's parties, tied her to a bed, exposed himself, and "forcibly raped" her.

"During the course of this savage sexual attack, Plaintiff loudly pleaded with Defendant Trump to stop but with no effect," the document alleges. "Defendant Trump responded to Plaintiff's pleas by violently striking Plaintiff in the face with his open hand and screaming that he would do whatever he wanted."

The plaintiff further alleged that Epstein raped her after Trump, and that both told her she and her family would be killed if she ever revealed the details of what had happened. Trump and Epstein denied the accusations. One attorney said the unnamed accuser backed out due to threats.

Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...


Frankly, there are too many allegations, to be dismissive,

SaintForLife said:

That because it's not true. The top Epstein reporter who's no fan of Trump:

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Thanks for confirming that Trump and his minions desperately want to bury this story.

Thanks for confirming there's some truth to it, and Trump and his minions know this story will hurt him.

Thanks for confirming we need to spread this story as far and as wide as we can.

Thanks for confirming MT15 was wise to single this story out by dedicating a separate thread to it.

Thanks for giving us an advanced cheat sheet on the false propaganda we need to debunk.

Thank you for being so much more helpful than you could imagine and that you intend to be.

SaintForLife said:

That because it's not true. The top Epstein reporter who's no fan of Trump:



Rest of the post:

These kinds of posts defy logic yet y'all are retweeting this propaganda.


Rest if the post and it's spot on:

This is a myth that seems to have spread in social media in the past week, my guess is to distract from coverage of Biden's age.

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So first Julie says she “was told” that the girl recanted her testimony. Then she asserts that both witnesses recanted as if she knows for sure.

1. On the girl - I read that she admitted to lying about having tapes of some men with underage girls. She said she told the lie as an insurance policy on her life since she was getting death threats. I don’t think she ever recanted anything she said about Trump, but will be interested to see if you can find that. However even if she did recant, you have to consider she was getting death threats.

2. I am not aware that the adult who testified about Trump and underage girls ever recanted either, but the same motivation could hold here. They were both getting threatened.

It has spread because of the dump of court documents that came out this week. I posted a link to them earlier in the thread. Have at it.