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    It looks like the first shoe has dropped with the Durham investigation with the Clinesmith plea deal. Clinesmith wasn't a low level FBI employee involved in the Crossfire Hurricane investigation.

    He worked with Strzok to arrange sending an FBI agent into Trump-Flynn briefing, was on the Mueller team, he took part in the Papadopoulos interviews, and he participated in the FISA process.



    From the NYT article:
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    www.nytimes.com

    Ex-F.B.I. Lawyer Expected to Plead Guilty in Review of Russia Inquiry (Published 2020)

    Prosecutors did not reveal any evidence of the kind of broad anti-Trump conspiracy among law enforcement officials that the president has long alleged.
    www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com

    I wonder who else knew about the lies?



     
    Is there any self-examination after you guys fell for the biggest political conspiracy in US history? I doubt it. Shouldn't you reexamine the media you blindly followed and parroted
     
    WSJ Editorial Board:

    "The country spent years obsessing over the Trump conspiracy that didn’t exist—rather than the Clinton conspiracy that did. (...) Mr. Durham is telling a story that many, if not most, in Washington would prefer to stay hidden."
    www.wsj.com

    Opinion | Durham Unravels the Russia Case

    His indictments reveal facts embarrassing to former special counsel Robert Mueller and the press.
    www.wsj.com www.wsj.com
     
    Sigh. You’re the only person who feels this is somehow transformative. Mueller paid no attention to the dossier. It doesn’t change the facts of the case, because it was never considered to be established as anything other than a collection of raw intelligence.

    Frankly, this is embarrassing for you. Durham has precious little to show for his 2+ years of investigation. The dossier was never anything but a media sideshow.
     
    Didn't a lot of legacy media autofellatio themselves with Pulitzers and other awards? Yeah, nothing to see here, just another crazy right conspiracy theory proven correct and the old tried true Dem strategy of 'we didn't cheat, you cheated, you racist!'
     
    SaintForLife said:
    I'll post single tweets highlighting how Hillary and the DNC & the Corporate Media pushed the BS Russia Narrative so I don't confuse anyone.

    What's hilarious is that it ended up being that Hillary and the Democrats colluded with Russia to influence the election and you guys ate it up.
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    There was a lot more to the Trump campaign and Russia than the dossier. I'm sure you have conveniently forgotten so that you can act all incensed about this now. And these are allegations (previous Durham allegations have been on slim evidence) - but yeah, it's just dirty stuff - it sucks that this stuff happens. I fully support prosecuting any law breaking.
     
    superchuck500 said:
    There was a lot more to the Trump campaign and Russia than the dossier. I'm sure you have conveniently forgotten so that you can act all incensed about this now. And these are allegations (previous Durham allegations have been on slim evidence) - but yeah, it's just dirty stuff - it sucks that this stuff happens. I fully support prosecuting any law breaking.
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    Are you really going to act like the Clinton Dossier wasn’t a huge part of the BS Russia investigation?



    Also the BS Alfa bank pushed by Hillarys lawyer Sussman as well as Crowdstrike admitting under oath that they had no evidence of any exfiltration of data from the supposed DNC hack. The same DNC hack where the DNC refused to let the FBI examine their servers and relied on the DNC contracted Crowdstrike. How can you claim anything is definitive when the FBI wasn’t allowed access to the DNC servers and the whole Russia hacking claim relies on a company that the DNC contracte?

    Also:



    Slim evidence huh? You didn’t have a problem with that during the Russia investigation.

    Do you have any comment on how the Clinton campaign created the Russia collusion narrative? Do you have any remorse for parroting the media’s BS Russia Collusion narrative. How’s the Lawfare crowd looking which you constantly cited?

    Oh its just dirty stuff or the Clinton campaign got caught creating the Russia collusion narrative and you guys ate it up and constantly parroted it despite the flimsy evidence.
     
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    MT15 said:
    Sigh. You’re the only person who feels this is somehow transformative. Mueller paid no attention to the dossier. It doesn’t change the facts of the case, because it was never considered to be established as anything other than a collection of raw intelligence.

    Frankly, this is embarrassing for you. Durham has precious little to show for his 2+ years of investigation. The dossier was never anything but a media sideshow.
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    You have never admitted how the evidence has proved your parroted claims wrong and I expected you to continue the charade.
     
    How did the Steele Dossier play into the Mueller investigation? Please be specific. Where was it even mentioned? I can tell you Mueller didn’t use it and never mentioned it.

    We all know why you want to focus on it so much, though. It’s because you desperately want to deflect from what was important and what actually happened. Or rather, the ragtag army of tweeters you rely on want to distract you with it.

    It was raw intelligence. Steele himself said it could be Russian disinformation at the time. It was salacious and made a good story, but played no part in Mueller’s investigation.

    The indictment of Sussman is very suspect. And I expect it will quietly go away sometime in the future. It had no bearing on anything about the investigation, and no bearing on the way the Steele Dossier was even handled. It’s a joke. Durham shows he is desperate for something to show for 2 years of work, by throwing this piece of crap at the wall.

    I have no idea about the Russian guy’s indictment. I don’t really care. Once again, it proves nothing about the actual Mueller investigation and the Dossier doesn’t matter.
     
    MT15 said:
    How did the Steele Dossier play into the Mueller investigation? Please be specific. Where was it even mentioned? I can tell you Mueller didn’t use it and never mentioned it.

    We all know why you want to focus on it so much, though. It’s because you desperately want to deflect from what was important and what actually happened. Or rather, the ragtag army of tweeters you rely on want to distract you with it.

    It was raw intelligence. Steele himself said it could be Russian disinformation at the time. It was salacious and made a good story, but played no part in Mueller’s investigation.

    The indictment of Sussman is very suspect. And I expect it will quietly go away sometime in the future. It had no bearing on anything about the investigation, and no bearing on the way the Steele Dossier was even handled. It’s a joke. Durham shows he is desperate for something to show for 2 years of work, by throwing this piece of crap at the wall.

    I have no idea about the Russian guy’s indictment. I don’t really care. Once again, it proves nothing about the actual Mueller investigation and the Dossier doesn’t matter.
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    Nobody was talking about the Mueller investigation except for you. That's much later down the line, but you're right that Mueller didn't mention anything about it because he knew it was complete BS. Shouldn't Mueller have at least said the Clinton dossier wasn't true? But that would have affected the overall Democrat/media narrative and the goal of impeachment. Do you remember this part of the Mueller report?
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    Don't forget that Comey and McCabe wanted to include the Clinton Dossier in the Intelligence Community’s Assessment eventhough they already knew at that time that it wasn't true. It still ended up in a different section. That was purposely done because then it gave the news media a reason to report on it.

    Also there wouldn't have been any FISA warrants without the Clinton Dossier.

    The Steele/Clinton Dossier was the main thing that started the Russia Trump Collusion narrative which s
     
    LMAO @ the "Clint Dossier"...clever.

    I have zero doubt that all of this coming from Durham will eventually lead to more damming evidence against trump.
     
    No, the Steele Dossier actually wasn’t the main reason for the investigations, no matter how many times you say it. It wasn’t important to the FISAs either.

    Also, it is sorta funny that you now have renamed it the Clinton dossier, when it was actually prepared for the Washington Free Beacon. Talking points must be followed, lol.

    www.factcheck.org

    Dossier Not What 'Started All of This' - FactCheck.org

    In an interview about the special counsel's report, Rep. John Ratcliffe said that what "started all of this" was "a fake, phony dossier." But a House Republican intelligence committee memo said it was information about a Trump campaign foreign policy adviser that sparked the FBI's...
    www.factcheck.org www.factcheck.org
     
    Trump’s first impeachment, IIRC, had nothing to do with anything about the Steele Dossier. Nobody except the press paid it any mind, and of course your guys, because they really need to deflect from the actual crimes committed.
     

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