The Voting Thread (Procedures, Turnout, Legal Challenges)(Update: Trump to file suit in PA, MI, WI, AZ, NV, GA) (8 Viewers)

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    Lapaz

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    There is a lot of push-back from Trump on voting by mail, but most states allow it, and 1/3 allow it without any excuse. His rationale is that it will lead to vast fraud, but of course that isn't his real reason. His real reason is that he thinks it will be worse for conservatives, but studies have shown that states that have instituted much broader voting by mail haven't had any statistical changes in party voting.



    Although, normally voting by mail doesn't affect party votes, I bet it might this year if we have another resurgence of Covid, because I think the right is much more apt to discount the virus than the left. I know that is why Trump is against it.

    Whether you're left or right wing, expanding mail in votes is the right thing to do to reduce the likelihood of spreading the virus, to expand voter participation, and to make it easier for those that do show up to stay distant. It will also allow any people with susceptibilities to remain safer. I think voting by mail could be made extremely secure by having people vote using traditional postal mail, coupled with requiring a confirmation either by phone, email or text. If done by phone, then voters can provide confirmation that can include confirming their form number. If done by email or text, it can include a picture of their form, and then confirmation that that was their form. Rather than staffers individually calling people, this can be automated by having voters call the number, text the number, or email the address provided to them on their form. A website can even be created with a database of those that have voted, and perhaps a link to allow people to confirm their vote was correctly registered. For people without computers, a site can include a means to access the database over the phone with some confirmation information. These types of systems are used extensively by banks and other sites that need security, so I think they are mature enough to use. We could even use such a site for people to confirm their vote on the day of the election.
     
    The more I read about this USPS incompetence, the angrier I get.

    In South Florida, just 85.12% of the mail-in ballots were delivered on Election Day

    In central Pennsylvania, just 61.3% of the mail-ballots in the postal system were delivered on time, the court filing shows. In Philadelphia, slightly more than 66% of the mail-in ballots had been delivered on Election Day.

    In Atlanta 82.2% percent of the mail-in ballots were delivered on Election Day, the court filing shows.

    Detroit postal facilities reported less than 79% percent of mail-in ballots delivered that day.

    In Greensboro, North Carolina, 72.9% percent of the mail-in ballots were delivered on Tuesday.

    And in Lakeland, Wisconsin, slightly less than 77% of such ballots were delivered, the filing revealed.
     
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    The more I read about this USPS incompetence, the angrier I get.

    In South Florida, just 85.12% of the mail-in ballots were delivered on Election Day

    In central Pennsylvania, just 61.3% of the mail-ballots in the postal system were delivered on time, the court filing shows. In Philadelphia, slightly more than 66% of the mail-in ballots had been delivered on Election Day.

    In Atlanta 82.2% percent of the mail-in ballots were delivered on Election Day, the court filing shows.

    Detroit postal facilities reported less than 79% percent of mail-in ballots delivered that day.

    In Greensboro, North Carolina, 72.9% percent of the mail-in ballots were delivered on Tuesday.

    And in Lakeland, Wisconsin, slightly less than 77% of such ballots were delivered, the filing revealed.
    One thing for sure, trump should give DeJoy some sort of medal because his active measures to sabotage the USPS worked as advertised. Had DeJoy not been Postmaster General, this race would have been called for Biden yesterday.
     
    One thing for sure, trump should give DeJoy some sort of medal because his active measures to sabotage the USPS worked as advertised. Had DeJoy not been Postmaster General, this race would have been called for Biden yesterday.

    I didn't want to say this because it would sound maybe too conspiracy-ish, but I kept thinking about how some people (like Rodger Stone) they are willing to commit crimes for "their cause" and so say these uncounted votes result in trump being re-elected, and it later comes out that Dejoy was actually working to undermine the elections, and he goes to jail. Well Trump would just pardon him, I have no doubts about it
     
    So the tweet below got this Federalist guy’s account suspended, apparently. It’s completely legal for people in Georgia who have had their absentee ballots rejected to get a chance to “cure” them. Nothing illegal about it wherever that right exists. I’m glad Twitter is stopping this flagrant disinformatio.

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    So the tweet below got this Federalist guy’s account suspended, apparently. It’s completely legal for people in Georgia who have had their absentee ballots rejected to get a chance to “cure” them. Nothing illegal about it wherever that right exists. I’m glad Twitter is stopping this flagrant disinformatio.

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    Yup, it's a cure affidavit. Pretty common. Usually not a lot that need it. In Broward, I think about 130 needed to be 'cured'.

    These political operatives really count on people's ignorance to make a normal thing sound sinister.
     
    The judge should have held that attorney in contempt for that reply.
     

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