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[Huntn]

Anxiety surges as Donald Trump may be indicted soon: Why 2024 is 'the final battle' and 'the big one'​

Anxiety surges as Donald Trump may be indicted soon: Why 2024 is 'the final battle' and 'the big one'

Donald Trump's many legal problems – and calls for protests – have generated new fears of political violence and anxiety about the 2024 election.

www.yahoo.com

WASHINGTON – It looks like American politics is entering a new age of anxiety, triggered by an unprecedented legal development: The potential indictment of a former president and current presidential candidate.

Donald Trump's many legal problems – and calls for protests by his followers – have generated new fears of political violence and anxiety about the unknowable impact all this will have on the already-tense 2024 presidential election

I’ll reframe this is a more accurate way, Are Presidents above the law? This new age was spurred into existence when home grown dummies elected a corrupt, mentally ill, anti-democratic, would be dictator as President and don’t bother to hold him responsible for his crimes, don’t want to because in the ensuing mayhem and destruction, they think they will be better off. The man is actually advocating violence (not the first time). And btw, screw democracy too. If this feeling spreads, we are In deep shirt.

This goes beyond one treasonous Peice of work and out to all his minions. This is on you or should we be sympathetic to the idea of they can’t help being selfish suckers to the Nation’s detriment? Donald Trump is the single largest individual threat to our democracy and it‘s all going to boil down to will the majority of the GOP return to his embrace and start slinging his excrement to support him?

 

[Lapaz]

It’s all disgusting. People using the law and the courts as political weapons. Corruption. It’s all disgusting.

But without high and clear ethical standards that both parties agree to enforce equally without excuse or evasion, nothing is gonna change. Democrats will circle the wagon and make all kinds of excuses for democrats and republicans will do the same.

I have zero confidence that either party has it in them to do it. So nothing will change. The fastest growing political party in the US is Independents. Is there any wonder why?

I generally agree. The current attorney general is using the courts as a weapon by threatening innocent people who they don’t like. On the other hand, the Biden administration prosecuted more Democrats than Republicans. I don’t think Democrats circle the wagons nearly as much as Republicans. I have far more confidence in the Democratic party to adhere to standards.

 

[TampaJoe]

Oh? Al Franken would like to hear more. A years old comedy bit got him run out of the Senate. Meanwhile…Trump, ya know.

They can bury Bob Menendez under a prison as far as I think most Democrats are concerned.

I’m not saying you’re entirely wrong but I really don’t think the Republicans have an ethical standard, at all, anymore. Which has put our country in a very perilous place.

If there is an ethical standard in either party it’s pretty much at the last rung on the ladder.

 

[TampaJoe]

More both sides again!

Exactly.

 

[TampaJoe]

I generally agree. The current attorney general is using the courts as a weapon by threatening innocent people who they don’t like. On the other hand, the Biden administration prosecuted more Democrats than Republicans. I don’t think Democrats circle the wagons nearly as much as Republicans. I have far more confidence in the Democratic party to adhere to standards.

I wouldn’t bet the farm on it.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

His name. Hence the N in NIL. Selling the Trump brand. Like Hunter was selling the Biden brand.

Barron Trump has no brand. He has access to his father, though. You don't think that would play a role in this hypothetical scenario?

Remember, Barron Trump would bring nothing to the table other than having a powerful father. Hunter Biden has skills for which there is a market. College athletes have skills that help them build their brands.

 

[TampaJoe]

Barron Trump has no brand. He has access to his father, though. You don't think that would play a role in this hypothetical scenario?

Remember, Barron Trump would bring nothing to the table other than having a powerful father. Hunter Biden has skills for which there is a market. College athletes have skills that help them build their brands.

You don’t think it would play a role in the Biden scenario? Hunter didn’t bring anything to the table either other than his family name and access to his father. That was his skill.

This successful business man was a raging addict and claims he has trouble paying his child support. But herein lies the point, Hunter was playing on the family name. The Biden brand. They admitted as much. Barron and the Trump boys do the same.

Their fathers were aware. Their fathers are not or were not self employed. They were employees of the US govt and have a fiduciary duty to the citizens of this country and a duty to act in the best interests of the country and not in their own or their children’s best interests. I would hope that at least we can agree on that.

As such anything that is a conflict or interest or could be perceived by an impartial prudent observer as a potential conflict of interest should be avoided as a matter of ethics. The same should be true for every judge, cabinet officer, member of the legislature and political appointee. They work for us. Regardless of party.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

As is your obvious and blatant hypocrisy.

Let's say that you are a police officer on foot patrol with your partner. You come to an intersection. You see someone stealing a couple of apples one block to your left. You see someone committing armed robbery one block to your right. Do you:

A. Take your partner and go after the armed robber;
B. Take your partner and go after the apple thief;
C. Split up, one of you going after each criminal; or
D. Nothing

 

[cuddlemonkey]

You don’t think it would play a role in the Biden scenario? Hunter didn’t bring anything to the table either other than his family name and access to his father. That was his skill.

And his law degree and his practical experience. You're doing that thing where you refuse to engage with reality, Joe.

This successful business man was a raging addict and claims he has trouble paying his child support. But herein lies the point, Hunter was playing on the family name. The Biden brand. They admitted as much. Barron and the Trump boys do the same.

It's possible for people to be a private mess while still functioning at work. I've seen it first hand. That doesn't change the fact that Barron, in this hypothetical, has zero skills.

Their fathers were aware. Their fathers are not or were not self employed. They were employees of the US govt and have a fiduciary duty to the citizens of this country and a duty to act in the best interests of the country and not in their own or their children’s best interests. I would hope that at least we can agree on that.

As such anything that is a conflict or interest or could be perceived by an impartial prudent observer as a potential conflict of interest should be avoided as a matter of ethics. The same should be true for every judge, cabinet officer, member of the legislature and political appointee. They work for us. Regardless of party.

You should be happy. There is zero proof that Joe Biden was influenced by or profited from Hunter's businesses.

 

[Optimus Prime]

GOP loves people like you ‘both sides’ folks for two reasons and it’s Win/Win for them

1. If you’re truly convinced both sides are equally bad maybe you won’t bother to vote at all. Lower turnout always favors GOP

2. You know your side had some issues and feel conflicted about voting for them. But if you can convince yourself that both sides are equally bad then you can vote for ‘your bad side’ with a relatively clean conscience ‘hey, the other side is no better’

 

[TampaJoe]

Let's say that you are a police officer on foot patrol with your partner. You come to an intersection. You see someone stealing a couple of apples one block to your left. You see someone committing armed robbery one block to your right. Do you:

A. Take your partner and go after the armed robber;
B. Take your partner and go after the apple thief;
C. Split up, one of you going after each criminal; or
D. Nothing

I stop answering dumb arse hypotheticals.

This is influence peddling at the highest levels in government. Now that may not be serious to you. I dunno. Be it a judge or a legislator or a cabinet secretary or the President or Vice President.

But to answer your question. Theft is theft. I don’t condone theft of any amount. In this case one is a felony and one a misdemeanor. But is still theft. Do you condone theft? Do you think influence peddling is comparable to a kid stealing apples? Is that how serious you are about corruption?

 

[TampaJoe]

GOP loves people like you ‘both sides’ folks for two reasons and it’s Win/Win for them

1. If you’re truly convinced both sides are equally bad maybe you won’t bother to vote at all. Lower turnout always favors GOP

2. You know your side had some issues and feel conflicted about voting for them. But if you can convince yourself that both sides are equally bad then you can vote for ‘your bad side’ with a relatively clean conscience ‘hey, the other side is no better’

I didn’t say both sides are equal. Learn to read.

I said both sides should be held to the same standard. Got a problem with that?

Both sides have issues. I don’t totally agree with either side on every issue. I’m a conservative and I tend to vote that way. I’ve never hidden that fact. I have never liked Trump and have never voted for Trump. Got a problem with that?

Democrats love folks like you. Reminds them of sheep.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

I stop answering dumb arse hypotheticals.

This is influence peddling at the highest levels in government. Now that may not be serious to you. I dunno. Be it a judge or a legislator or a cabinet secretary or the President or Vice President.

But to answer your question. Theft is theft. I don’t condone theft of any amount. In this case one is a felony and one a misdemeanor. But is still theft. Do you condone theft? Do you think influence peddling is comparable to a kid stealing apples? Is that how serious you are about corruption?

You stopped answering them because you know that the only correct answer undercuts your claims.

 

[Optimus Prime]

……..Peterson was targeted during a low chapter in American history – one that feels eerily familiar today.

It was a time when reactionaries in Congress plotted to sell off public lands – just as they do now. When the US Forest Service was under intense pressure to clear-cut more trees – just as it is now.

When public lands faced destruction in the name of energy production – just as they do now. More than 14,000 people were forced out of government jobs during the red scare – a mass purge that mirrors the targeted layoffs we’re witnessing now.

Meanwhile, the Trump administration has made no secret of its ambitions: a ramp-up of logging and drilling across public lands, and a sweeping plan to shrink up to six national monuments in the south-west.

Taken together, a larger strategy comes into focus: Republicans are laying the groundwork to sell off some of the nation’s most treasured public assets. And it begins with gutting the numbers and the morale of the very people who protect them.

Bill Wade boasts nine decades of perspective on the US’s public lands. The son of a ranger, the 84-year-old was raised inside Mesa Verde national park in Colorado and went on to have a long career in the agency, eventually serving as supervisor at Shenandoah national park in Virginia.

Now retired, Wade serves as the executive director of the Association of National Park Rangers, which makes him an excellent ear to have on the ground. He has a bracing take on conservation workers and our public lands.

Morale, he says, is probably the lowest he’s seen in his 58-year career.

That’s a reasonable take, given that the message from the Trump administration is, to paraphrase the novelty slogan: “Purging will continue until morale improves.”

February 2025 brought the “Valentine’s Day massacre”, when the misnamed “department of government efficiency” fired 1,000 National Park Service employees and 3,400 from the US Forest Service. In March, courts ruled the firings lawless. More buyouts followed. In May, the administration signaled it would slash the agency’s budget by 40% – the biggest cut in its 109-year history.

With parks having boasted record visitation in 2024, this year they are already reporting shortages in visitor center hours; campground accessibility; sanitation; interpretation, such as ranger-led hikes; and environmental stewardship, such as trail maintenance and wildfire prevention programs with youth conservation volunteers.……..

This land is their land: Trump is selling out the US’s beloved wilderness

During the McCarthy era’s darkest days, public lands came under attack. History now repeats itself – and this may be the last chance to defend what’s ours

www.theguardian.com

 

[Optimus Prime]

I didn’t say both sides are equal. Learn to read.

I said both sides should be held to the same standard. Got a problem with that?

Both sides have issues. I don’t totally agree with either side on every issue. I’m a conservative and I tend to vote that way. I’ve never hidden that fact. I have never liked Trump and have never voted for Trump. Got a problem with that?

Democrats love folks like you. Reminds them of sheep.

Okay Lady MacBeth

I don’t know if I’ve ever seen anyone unasked, unprompted and unaccused say “I’ve never voted for Trump” as much as you do

 

[MT15]

You know your side had some issues and feel conflicted about voting for them. But if you can convince yourself that both sides are equally bad then you can vote for ‘your bad side’ with a relatively clean conscience ‘hey, the other side is no better’

This is the correct answer. It works for both of our resident contrarians.

It is what allows them to vote for GOP, who will enable the worst Trump actions - his rejection of court rulings and due process, his blatant corruption that is the worst corruption we have ever seen in our chief executive, etc.

And then they can claim some sort of moral high ground. Hey - I didn’t vote for him!

No, but your votes made everything possible that is happening now. And you’re not upset about any of it. Not really.

 

[Lapaz]

I wouldn’t bet the farm on it.

A lot of Trump voters did bet the farm, and they were wrong. They thought he wouldn't be any worse than his first term, and they were very wrong. His corruption has increased by an order of magnitude, and this country is in grave danger. The only hope is that enough voters wake up and vote for the Democratic opposition that has a chance to check him, but it may be too late. I'm not sure the next election will be fair. Other totalitarians have rigged their elections. I hope we can avoid that, but I'm not sure.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Donald Trump has called for a “major investigation” into music icon Bruce Springsteen, days after the singer described the president as “incompetent” during a series of concerts in the UK.

In a post on Truth Social, the president suggested that his 2024 rival Kamala Harriscould have paid Springsteen for an “illegal campaign contribution” during the presidential election last year, without providing any evidence.

Trump also claimed that Beyonce, Oprah, and U2 frontman Bono could be investigated over their dealings with Harris, all of whom either endorsed Trump’s opponent during the election or supported the Democrats.

“HOW MUCH DID KAMALA HARRIS PAY BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN FOR HIS POOR PERFORMANCE DURING HER CAMPAIGN FOR PRESIDENT?

“WHY DID HE ACCEPT THAT MONEY IF HE IS SUCH A FAN OF HERS? ISN’T THAT A MAJOR AND ILLEGAL CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION? WHAT ABOUT BEYONCÉ? …AND HOW MUCH WENT TO OPRAH, AND BONO???

“I am going to call for a major investigation into this matter. Candidates aren’t allowed to pay for ENDORSEMENTS, which is what Kamala did, under the guise of paying for entertainment. In addition, this was a very expensive and desperate effort to artificially build up her sparse crowds. IT’S NOT LEGAL! For these unpatriotic “entertainers,” this was just a CORRUPT & UNLAWFUL way to capitalize on a broken system. Thank you for your attention to this matter!!!”

None of his claims were substantiated.…….

Trump calls for ‘major investigation’ into Bruce Springsteen

Donald Trump’s diatribe comes just days after Bruce Springsteen told an audience that he believed the current US administration was ‘corrupt, incompetent and treasonous’

www.independent.co.uk

 

[MT15]

Mind-numbing hypocrisy.