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    Saintman2884

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    It has been an issue that has sort of been on the periphery of mainstream national political discussion for a couple of decades now, although possible Puerto Rican statehood has received more attention and garnered more traction past decade considering its still semi-limbo legal status between Commonwealth, state, or allowing them full independence?

    DC statehood question has become a main issue and I'm writing this thread to gauge or determine the feelings of MAP/SR members on here that live or work near D.C., Saint Terps, DaveXa are two notable examples. I believe a few other MAP/SR posters on here I'm not aware of at the moment are D.C. natives or work or live in the surrounding areas.

    Me, although right-leaning, have absolutely no problem with granting D.C. statehood as it would probably make the large, cumbersome complex bureaucracy of running the city, its infrastructure, various police forces, agencies a lot less difficult and I'm a big believer in smart, practical/pragmatic styled government that gets things done but doesn't interject itself too much into the equation if it doesn't have to unless under emergency situations or national disasters (terrorist attacks, God forbid another domestic Jan. 6 insurrectionist event/attempt, foreign biological/chemical/nuclear attack).

    Plus, I'd like to see how the new 51-star American flag would look considering if Washington D.C. becomes a state, it would be the first one admitted to the Union in over 60 years.
     
    They should be a state. Residents have been without the same amount of representation that most of us get for too long.

    And I’d be for Puerto Rico as well, if they want to. That way we’d have an even number again.
     
    MT15 said:
    They should be a state. Residents have been without the same amount of representation that most of us get for too long.

    And I’d be for Puerto Rico as well, if they want to. That way we’d have an even number again.
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    Both should be states, but I think DC would have a constitutional challenge. Dems should fix the house with the Wyoming rule as well.
     
    I personally think P.R should be considered before DC. I'm wondering why DC would have to be it's own state? Why couldn't it be part of Maryland? Or reverse it, make Maryland part of DC (this would never happen). Anyways, DC kind of vaguely reminds me of vatican city
     
    I think DC residents are like 76% in favor? (I’m pulling that number out the sky, but I remember it being high). If they feel that strongly, I’m ‘bout it.
     
    Saintman2884 said:
    It has been an issue that has sort of been on the periphery of mainstream national political discussion for a couple of decades now, although possible Puerto Rican statehood has received more attention and garnered more traction past decade considering its still semi-limbo legal status between Commonwealth, state, or allowing them full independence?

    DC statehood question has become a main issue and I'm writing this thread to gauge or determine the feelings of MAP/SR members on here that live or work near D.C., Saint Terps, DaveXa are two notable examples. I believe a few other MAP/SR posters on here I'm not aware of at the moment are D.C. natives or work or live in the surrounding areas.

    Me, although right-leaning, have absolutely no problem with granting D.C. statehood as it would probably make the large, cumbersome complex bureaucracy of running the city, its infrastructure, various police forces, agencies a lot less difficult and I'm a big believer in smart, practical/pragmatic styled government that gets things done but doesn't interject itself too much into the equation if it doesn't have to unless under emergency situations or national disasters (terrorist attacks, God forbid another domestic Jan. 6 insurrectionist event/attempt, foreign biological/chemical/nuclear attack).

    Plus, I'd like to see how the new 51-star American flag would look considering if Washington D.C. becomes a state, it would be the first one admitted to the Union in over 60 years.
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    I'm not sure about DC being a State. However, I think all residents of DC should have voting rights in either Virginia or Maryland. Probably Maryland. Maryland can gain the population, perhaps a house rep? if not counted already (I'm pretty ignorant on the DC situation).

    But you can still keep DC semi-autonomous, so that there isn't extra favoritism, or extra taxes.

    PR should be a State. it's time. And it's not overly political. Democracts and Republicans would gain voters. I would say Puerto Rican's tend to vote more democrat than republican, compared to Cubans, but many are in that conservative democrat mix. But they're a very large population, and would bring a lot of positives to the nation, as well as the fact they'd benefit from some real funding and infrastructure improvements.
     
    I’m a DC resident. Here are my thoughts:
    1. Retrocession - Screw that; I’m not a Marylander. If we are merging states then ND/SD merge, WY gets carved between 4 states, and MS/AL merge because they are 49/50 in everything and no one will know the difference. NoVa was retroceded in 1847. Just doing the same for the rest of DC doesn’t fix the injustice.

    2. It’s so small - Size doesn’t matter. People vote not land. I don’t see anyone complaining about RI.

    3. It’s lacks population - DC has 705k people which is more than VT and WY. By 2040, DC will be more populated than VT, WY AK, RI, ND, and SD. By 2060, DC will likely be more populated than 10 states.

    5. Taxes - PR has no voting Rep/Sen and it’s residents doesn’t pay federal income taxes. DC residents have to pay this tax. If you want to treat DC residents like territorial citizens, then end federal income taxes for DC residents. This is a bridge solution until something better.
     
    B4YOU said:
    I’m a DC resident. Here are my thoughts:
    1. Retrocession - Screw that; I’m not a Marylander. If we are merging states then ND/SD merge, WY gets carved between 4 states, and MS/AL merge because they are 49/50 in everything and no one will know the difference. NoVa was retroceded in 1847. Just doing the same for the rest of DC doesn’t fix the injustice.

    2. It’s so small - Size doesn’t matter. People vote not land. I don’t see anyone complaining about RI.

    3. It’s lacks population - DC has 705k people which is more than VT and WY. By 2040, DC will be more populated than VT, WY AK, RI, ND, and SD. By 2060, DC will likely be more populated than 10 states.

    5. Taxes - PR has no voting Rep/Sen and it’s residents doesn’t pay federal income taxes. DC residents have to pay this tax. If you want to treat DC residents like territorial citizens, then end federal income taxes for DC residents. This is a bridge solution until something better.
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    I'm in Maryland about 30 minutes outside DC

    Taxation without Representation is a longtime unofficial DC motto - it was even on the license plates

    Seems like the solution is to either stop taxing DC or give DC representation
     
    Optimus Prime said:
    Seems like the solution is to either stop taxing DC or give DC representation
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    It’s Dems that hold up the no taxation bills. Rep. Gohmert TX-R has introduced bills since 2009 to end federal income taxes in DC. Dems and Rep Norton DC-D won’t support it because representation > taxes.

    Take the short term win of no federal taxes. Rs would cut off representation for a decade. Ds need to play the long game. Ds get a population with $10k more income that can be pumped for donations. DC population would 3x-4x in 10 years. DC would be the 36 most populated “state” with a stronger case for representatives.
     
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