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    Do you find it problematic and wrong that children where in cages during Obama's administration?

    "Problematic" is not the term I would use. At least I hope I don't get in a bad habit if saying things like that from reading posts here.

    My preference would have been for the Obama administration to build something nicer, but when you have uninvited guests over sometimes you have to make do.

    The main problem that I see is that Democrats pretended that the "cages" were all Trump's idea and hysterically acted like he was cruel.

    Of course in the context of this thread what is important is Biden first lied and denied that kids were put in "cages" while he was VP and then floundered around when he was called out.
     
    "Problematic" is not the term I would use. At least I hope I don't get in a bad habit if saying things like that from reading posts here.

    My preference would have been for the Obama administration to build something nicer, but when you have uninvited guests over sometimes you have to make do.

    The main problem that I see is that Democrats pretended that the "cages" were all Trump's idea and hysterically acted like he was cruel.

    Of course in the context of this thread what is important is Biden first lied and denied that kids were put in "cages" while he was VP and then floundered around when he was called out.
    Trump wasn't cruel because he put kids in cages. He was cruel because his policy was to separate kids from their parents as a deterrent. Obama didn't have a separation policy.
     
    "Problematic" is not the term I would use. At least I hope I don't get in a bad habit if saying things like that from reading posts here.

    My preference would have been for the Obama administration to build something nicer, but when you have uninvited guests over sometimes you have to make do.

    The main problem that I see is that Democrats pretended that the "cages" were all Trump's idea and hysterically acted like he was cruel.

    Of course in the context of this thread what is important is Biden first lied and denied that kids were put in "cages" while he was VP and then floundered around when he was called out.

    Will, I would say it's cruel and wrong regardless of what administration it is.

    The Obama administration did not handle the unaccompanied minor migrant crisis well. They should have done better and deserve to be criticized for how they handled it.

    Of courses, there is a stark difference between the two administrations and their policies, one I know you won't acknowledge. The crisis during the Obama administration was unexpected and sudden. The problem with Trump was the result of a cruel family situation policy and change in policy to arrest and long term detainment of every migrant caught. I can also say without any hesitation that the treatment of the minors and conditions they're living in are worse.

    I just find it kind of hypocritical for somebody that's supportive of Trump immigration policies to take issue with Biden over it.
     
    Trump wasn't cruel because he put kids in cages. He was cruel because his policy was to separate kids from their parents as a deterrent. Obama didn't have a separation policy.

    I disagree, there's a better way than putting them in jails. If we can't do better than that, it's pretty sad.

    But I agree with your second part.
     
    Yeah, I really like her positions and plans to pay for it.

    She is not a good politician in the slightest unfortunately
     
    In Vainty Fair, Bernie's campaign manager, Faiz Shakir, unloaded on MSNBC, saying "Fox has been more fair."

    Sounds like the kettle is boiling and the lid's about to blow.

    “You can feel the disdain they have for Bernie Sanders’s supporters,” Shakir said. “It’s a condescending attitude: ‘Oh, they must not be that intelligent. They’re being deluded. They’re being conned. They’re all crazy Twitter bots.’ My view is that there’s a bit of detachment from MSNBC and the people who this campaign gets support from. It feels like they’re covering progressives from an elitist perspective.”

    “Fox is often yelling about Bernie Sanders’s socialism, but they’re still giving our campaign the opportunity to make our case in a fair manner, unlike MSNBC, which has credibility with the left and is constantly undermining the Bernie Sanders campaign.”


     

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