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Anxiety surges as Donald Trump may be indicted soon: Why 2024 is 'the final battle' and 'the big one'​


WASHINGTON – It looks like American politics is entering a new age of anxiety, triggered by an unprecedented legal development: The potential indictment of a former president and current presidential candidate.

Donald Trump's many legal problems – and calls for protests by his followers – have generated new fears of political violence and anxiety about the unknowable impact all this will have on the already-tense 2024 presidential election


I’ll reframe this is a more accurate way, Are Presidents above the law? This new age was spurred into existence when home grown dummies elected a corrupt, mentally ill, anti-democratic, would be dictator as President and don’t bother to hold him responsible for his crimes, don’t want to because in the ensuing mayhem and destruction, they think they will be better off. The man is actually advocating violence (not the first time). And btw, screw democracy too. If this feeling spreads, we are In deep shirt.

This goes beyond one treasonous Peice of work and out to all his minions. This is on you or should we be sympathetic to the idea of they can’t help being selfish suckers to the Nation’s detriment? Donald Trump is the single largest individual threat to our democracy and it‘s all going to boil down to will the majority of the GOP return to his embrace and start slinging his excrement to support him?
 
For this to make sense, the plane would continue to be used by the office of the president. It won't. The plan is that the plane is transfered to Trump's presidential library(whatever that means).

This plane is meant to be a personal gift, and is a bribe.

There is no savings here. You are still going to need to the other planes.

The most obvious issue with accepting the gift without tearing out every inch of interior, spying.

Trump plans to build a "Presidential Library" to commemorate his time as President.

He doing because he cannot stand the fact that Obama has one going up in Chicago. So of course, his will have to be bigger and better. ( most former Presidents have one in their home state )

And part of the funding to build?


But keep in mind, the plane will transfer to the "foundation" ...which means it will be of use to Trump family well after his Presidency.

Yeah totally not a bribe in any way.
 
Trump plans to build a "Presidential Library" to commemorate his time as President.

He doing because he cannot stand the fact that Obama has one going up in Chicago. So of course, his will have to be bigger and better. ( most former Presidents have one in their home state )

And part of the funding to build?


But keep in mind, the plane will transfer to the "foundation" ...which means it will be of use to Trump family well after his Presidency.

Yeah totally not a bribe in any way.
It will be a library exhibit.
 
What's ur point? The plane will be owned by the foundation. Not the US.

About Presidential Libraries​

The Presidential Library system is composed of sixteen Presidential Libraries across 14 facilities nationwide. These facilities are overseen by the Office of Presidential Libraries, in the National Archives and Records Administration. The Hoover through the George W. Bush Libraries also have museums with permanent and temporary exhibitions, educational offerings, and public programming. View locations and contact information.

The Frequently Asked Questions page contains additional information about the National Archives Presidential Libraries and Museums.

The Presidential Library System​

Presidential Libraries are archives and museums, bringing together the documents and artifacts of a President and his administration and presenting them to the public for study and discussion without regard for political considerations or affiliations. Presidential Libraries and Museums, like their holdings, belong to the American people.

Many Presidential papers and records had been lost, destroyed, sold for profit, or ruined by poor storage conditions. In 1939, President Franklin D. Roosevelt sought a better alternative.

Learn more about the Presidential Libraries History

Congress legislated this policy, passing the Presidential Libraries Act in 1955. Through archives, museums, and public programs, Presidential Libraries continue to preserve the documents and artifacts of our Presidents, helping us learn about our nation and our democracy.

Learn more about Laws and Regulations

Holdings Overview at Presidential Libraries​

The Presidential Libraries maintain over 600 million pages of textual materials; nearly 20 million photographs; over 20 million feet of motion picture film; nearly 100,000 hours of disc, audiotape, and videotape recordings; over 500 TB of electronic data, and close to 750,000 museum objects. These varied holdings make each library a rich source of information and a center for research on the Presidency.

The most important textual materials in each library are those created by the President and his staff in the course of performing the official duties. In recently established Presidential libraries, these documents can also be in electronic form. Researchers will also find that each library contains a rich audiovisual and photographic record of a President at work. Taken together, these historical materials form the substantive record of public policy in each administration. Libraries also house numerous museum objects which may include family heirlooms, items collected by the President and his family, campaign memorabilia, awards, and the many gifts given to the President by American citizens and foreign dignitaries. These gifts range in type from homemade items to valuable works of art. Curators in Presidential libraries and in other museums throughout the country draw upon these collections for historical exhibits.

Other significant holdings include the personal papers and historical materials donated by individuals associated with the President. These individuals may include cabinet officials, envoys to foreign governments, political party associates, and the President's family and personal friends. Several libraries have undertaken oral history programs that have produced valuable tape-recorded memoirs.

A third body of materials comprises the papers accumulated by the President prior to, and following, his Presidency. Such collections include documents relating to Roosevelt's tenure as Governor of New York and Dwight Eisenhower's long military career.

The Presidential Records research page has information about accessing the presidential collections.

Additional information on our holdings can be found in our Frequently Asked Questions.”


Nobody is flying the plane at the Reagan Library.
 

About Presidential Libraries​

The Presidential Library system is composed of sixteen Presidential Libraries across 14 facilities nationwide. These facilities are overseen by the Office of Presidential Libraries, in the National Archives and Records Administration. The Hoover through the George W. Bush Libraries also have museums with permanent and temporary exhibitions, educational offerings, and public programming. View locations and contact information.

The Frequently Asked Questions page contains additional information about the National Archives Presidential Libraries and Museums.

The Presidential Library System​

Presidential Libraries are archives and museums, bringing together the documents and artifacts of a President and his administration and presenting them to the public for study and discussion without regard for political considerations or affiliations. Presidential Libraries and Museums, like their holdings, belong to the American people.

Many Presidential papers and records had been lost, destroyed, sold for profit, or ruined by poor storage conditions. In 1939, President Franklin D. Roosevelt sought a better alternative.

Learn more about the Presidential Libraries History

Congress legislated this policy, passing the Presidential Libraries Act in 1955. Through archives, museums, and public programs, Presidential Libraries continue to preserve the documents and artifacts of our Presidents, helping us learn about our nation and our democracy.

Learn more about Laws and Regulations

Holdings Overview at Presidential Libraries​

The Presidential Libraries maintain over 600 million pages of textual materials; nearly 20 million photographs; over 20 million feet of motion picture film; nearly 100,000 hours of disc, audiotape, and videotape recordings; over 500 TB of electronic data, and close to 750,000 museum objects. These varied holdings make each library a rich source of information and a center for research on the Presidency.

The most important textual materials in each library are those created by the President and his staff in the course of performing the official duties. In recently established Presidential libraries, these documents can also be in electronic form. Researchers will also find that each library contains a rich audiovisual and photographic record of a President at work. Taken together, these historical materials form the substantive record of public policy in each administration. Libraries also house numerous museum objects which may include family heirlooms, items collected by the President and his family, campaign memorabilia, awards, and the many gifts given to the President by American citizens and foreign dignitaries. These gifts range in type from homemade items to valuable works of art. Curators in Presidential libraries and in other museums throughout the country draw upon these collections for historical exhibits.

Other significant holdings include the personal papers and historical materials donated by individuals associated with the President. These individuals may include cabinet officials, envoys to foreign governments, political party associates, and the President's family and personal friends. Several libraries have undertaken oral history programs that have produced valuable tape-recorded memoirs.

A third body of materials comprises the papers accumulated by the President prior to, and following, his Presidency. Such collections include documents relating to Roosevelt's tenure as Governor of New York and Dwight Eisenhower's long military career.

The Presidential Records research page has information about accessing the presidential collections.

Additional information on our holdings can be found in our Frequently Asked Questions.”


Nobody is flying the plane at the Reagan Library.


The plan is for the plane to be donated to Trump’s presidential library after he leaves office, ensuring he can continue to use it, according to a person familiar.
 
At the rate Boeing is going it will still be Air Force One for another ten years
 
At the rate Boeing is going it will still be Air Force One for another ten years

Boeing set to deliver in 2027.

And you think Trump actually would gift this plane to the US Govt upon his leaving office?

Wait nm. Don't answer. I just read that you believe it will be a museum piece.

El oh El.
 
So, the Qatar royal family is giving the U.S. government a 13 year old 747-8 ,very nicely outfitted, that will replace two 35 year old 747’s as Air Force One and that’s a problem? Especially given Boeing’s abject failure to meet the contract to replace the 35 year old Air Force Ones. And on the off chance Boeing ever delivers the Qatar gift will become a part of the a presidential library.

“But first, the 13-year-old plane will be given to the U.S. Air Force, which will cover the costs of updating the plane to meet U.S. military specifications necessary to transport the president, ABC News sources familiar with the anticipated arrangement.”


I don’t see the problem.
This is probably the most disturbing take I have seen you take on here. First of all this is completely unconstitutional because the plane will not stay with the office of the president but will definitely transfer to Trump’s control when he leaves office. It’s a violation in several ways - legally and by the constitution.

As mentioned - the espionage risk is real. And it’s nothing more than a personal bribe to Trump from a foreign nation.

This is a completely partisan take - you are evidently willing to overlook any type of corruption Trump can dish up. Your protestations of not liking his methods have always seemed hollow to me and this confirms it in spades.

Nobody who is morally and ethically sound will endorse this corrupt act.
 

About Presidential Libraries​

The Presidential Library system is composed of sixteen Presidential Libraries across 14 facilities nationwide. These facilities are overseen by the Office of Presidential Libraries, in the National Archives and Records Administration. The Hoover through the George W. Bush Libraries also have museums with permanent and temporary exhibitions, educational offerings, and public programming. View locations and contact information.

The Frequently Asked Questions page contains additional information about the National Archives Presidential Libraries and Museums.

The Presidential Library System​

Presidential Libraries are archives and museums, bringing together the documents and artifacts of a President and his administration and presenting them to the public for study and discussion without regard for political considerations or affiliations. Presidential Libraries and Museums, like their holdings, belong to the American people.

Many Presidential papers and records had been lost, destroyed, sold for profit, or ruined by poor storage conditions. In 1939, President Franklin D. Roosevelt sought a better alternative.

Learn more about the Presidential Libraries History

Congress legislated this policy, passing the Presidential Libraries Act in 1955. Through archives, museums, and public programs, Presidential Libraries continue to preserve the documents and artifacts of our Presidents, helping us learn about our nation and our democracy.

Learn more about Laws and Regulations

Holdings Overview at Presidential Libraries​

The Presidential Libraries maintain over 600 million pages of textual materials; nearly 20 million photographs; over 20 million feet of motion picture film; nearly 100,000 hours of disc, audiotape, and videotape recordings; over 500 TB of electronic data, and close to 750,000 museum objects. These varied holdings make each library a rich source of information and a center for research on the Presidency.

The most important textual materials in each library are those created by the President and his staff in the course of performing the official duties. In recently established Presidential libraries, these documents can also be in electronic form. Researchers will also find that each library contains a rich audiovisual and photographic record of a President at work. Taken together, these historical materials form the substantive record of public policy in each administration. Libraries also house numerous museum objects which may include family heirlooms, items collected by the President and his family, campaign memorabilia, awards, and the many gifts given to the President by American citizens and foreign dignitaries. These gifts range in type from homemade items to valuable works of art. Curators in Presidential libraries and in other museums throughout the country draw upon these collections for historical exhibits.

Other significant holdings include the personal papers and historical materials donated by individuals associated with the President. These individuals may include cabinet officials, envoys to foreign governments, political party associates, and the President's family and personal friends. Several libraries have undertaken oral history programs that have produced valuable tape-recorded memoirs.

A third body of materials comprises the papers accumulated by the President prior to, and following, his Presidency. Such collections include documents relating to Roosevelt's tenure as Governor of New York and Dwight Eisenhower's long military career.

The Presidential Records research page has information about accessing the presidential collections.

Additional information on our holdings can be found in our Frequently Asked Questions.”


Nobody is flying the plane at the Reagan Library.
This is just pathetic. You think quoting what normal people do has any bearing on what Trump will do? How much of a mark could you possibly be?
 
This is probably the most disturbing take I have seen you take on here. First of all this is completely unconstitutional because the plane will not stay with the office of the president but will definitely transfer to Trump’s control when he leaves office. It’s a violation in several ways - legally and by the constitution.

As mentioned - the espionage risk is real. And it’s nothing more than a personal bribe to Trump from a foreign nation.

This is a completely partisan take - you are evidently willing to overlook any type of corruption Trump can dish up. Your protestations of not liking his methods have always seemed hollow to me and this confirms it in spades.

Nobody who is morally and ethically sound will endorse this corrupt act.
I don’t think it’s unconstitutional for Qatar to give the plane to the Adair Force. I don’t think it unconstitutional for the Archives to take over when it goes the the Presidential Library.
 
At the rate Boeing is going it will still be Air Force One for another ten years
It will most definitely not - unless Trump is president for ten years. It will transfer to a Trump foundation as soon as he leaves office.

Your entire ethical and moral foundation is rightly being called into question by your support of this naked corruption.
 
I don’t think it’s unconstitutional for Qatar to give the plane to the Adair Force. I don’t think it unconstitutional for the Archives to take over when it goes the the Presidential Library.
This is a gift to Trump from a foreign country. Point blank. It’s worth $400 million dollars. They are also doing business with him on a resort property. This is all very corrupt and unethical.

This should fall under the Emoluments Clause. But Trump and other members of his admin have consistently ignored this in the past.
 
This is a gift to Trump from a foreign country. Point blank. It’s worth $400 million dollars. They are also doing business with him on a resort property. This is all very corrupt and unethical.

This should fall under the Emoluments Clause. But Trump and other members of his admin have consistently ignored this in the past.
It’s a gift to the United States.

As to the emoluments clause , it applies to “offices of profit or trust”. Elected officials aren’t “offices of profit or trust”. Offices of Profit or Trust are appointed. Thats why the House and Senate have specific House and Senate rules prohibiting House and Senate members from accepting emoluments.
 
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It’s a gift to the United States.

As to the emoluments clause , it applies to “offices of profit or trust”. Elected officials aren’t “offices of profit or trust”. Thats why the House and Senate have specific House and Senate rules prohibiting House and Senate members from accepting emoluments.

You really don't see a problem with this?

Will the next President of the United States be able to use this? Will anyone other than Trump be able to use this? If not, then this is definitely a very expensive gift from a foreign government to a man who is also doing personal business with that same government.
 
It’s a gift to the United States.

As to the emoluments clause , it applies to “offices of profit or trust”. Elected officials aren’t “offices of profit or trust”. Thats why the House and Senate have specific House and Senate rules prohibiting House and Senate members from accepting emoluments.
It is most certainly not a gift to the US when it follows Trump as he leaves office. This is pathetic.
 

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