Government shutdown - September 2025 edition

[superchuck500]

At midnight, September 30 into October 1, the federal appropriations will lapse and the government will shut down. That's next Tuesday night into Wednesday.

Despite promises to do so, the GOP has not advanced a budget or spending bills for Fiscal Year 2026 and the only way the government will remain open will be for Congress to pass a continuing resolution (CR). It could be a "clean CR" which means to simply extend for a given period of time at existing funding levels, or it can be burdened with whatever provisions they choose to tack on. Last week, the House passed CR with a few provisions mostly about enhanced security for Congress and federal officials. But it only keeps the government open until November 25.

The Senate cannot go to full vote without cloture and the cannot hit cloture without 60 votes - so the Democrats do have leverage with respect to the filibuster. Schumer has said they want to go to the table to negotiate to at least get some repeal of some of the Medicaid and other provisions of the "Big Beautiful Bill" - but Trump rejected their request to meet with him and Thune has similarly been unwilling.

It seems likely that Schumer is going to have to choose between supporting something like what the House passed with no gains at all for Democrats, or push the government into shut down to see if that brings more leverage to get something. Democrats are clearly calling for a more aggressive approach but Schumer also knows that shutdowns are bad and it will be difficult to pin this on anyone else but himself and Senate Democrats.

 

[zztop]

Nah. I am saying they both play the game. I am saying they both play both sides of the same issues. You can pretend otherwise but it doesn’t change the reality.

 

[DaveXA]

It’s all he has left.

 

[TampaJoe]

It’s all he has left.

If it is the truth you gotta say it. Ignoring the fact appears to be your super power.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

If it is the truth you gotta say it. Ignoring the fact appears to be your super power.

You wouldn't know the truth if it jumped up and did a dance for you, Mr. "No difference between RFK Jr. and Anthony Fauci."

You are either a troll or too uninformed to participate in the conversation.

 

[TampaJoe]

You wouldn't know the truth if it jumped up and did a dance for you, Mr. "No difference between RFK Jr. and Anthony Fauci."

You are either a troll or too uninformed to participate in the conversation.

Nobody is holding a gun to your head. I believe the conversation to which you refer was a pm. That and you misrepresent what I posted. But that’s how you roll.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Nobody is holding a gun to your head. I believe the conversation to which you refer was a pm. That and you misrepresent what I posted. But that’s how you roll.

It was indeed a PM, but it speaks to how untethered from reality you are. And if you want to defend that position, you are more than capable of sharing your thoughts.

 

[LA 2 L.A.]

If it is the truth you gotta say it.

"Both sides" is a lie and has been proven to be a lie every time you've said that lie.

Ignoring the fact appears to be your super power.

Lying about the facts is definitely yours.

 

[TampaJoe]

It was indeed a PM, but it speaks to how untethered from reality you are. And if you want to defend that position, you are more than capable of sharing your thoughts.

That’s okay. PMs on most boards are private conversations and most posters have enough respect and integrity that they don’t discuss them on the board without agreement from the other poster. You chose to take a comment out of context and misrepresent it on the open board. It’s not honest but then again you aren’t an honest poster. fork off.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

That’s okay. PMs on most boards are private conversations and most posters have enough respect and integrity that they don’t discuss them on the board without agreement from the other poster. You chose to take a comment out of context and misrepresent it on the open board. It’s not honest but then again you aren’t an honest poster. fork off.

I misrepresented nothing. And if you want respect, you earn it. You consistently lie, misrepresent what others say, and have a history of not engaging with others, opting instead to dodge questions (which you did in our private discussion as well).

You also refuse to engage in reality. You provided a definition of fascism, and then denied any and all comparisons between your accepted definition and things that are actively happening.

So no, Joe. You don't get to claim I am taking things out of context and whine about a lack of respect and integrity when you haven't shown the same to me or others.

 

[TampaJoe]

I misrepresented nothing. And if you want respect, you earn it. You consistently lie, misrepresent what others say, and have a history of not engaging with others, opting instead to dodge questions (which you did in our private discussion as well).

You also refuse to engage in reality. You provided a definition of fascism, and then denied any and all comparisons between your accepted definition and things that are actively happening.

So no, Joe. You don't get to claim I am taking things out of context and whine about a lack of respect and integrity when you haven't shown the same to me or others.

You are all talk CM. I’ve been posting on boards like this for decades. You are the first person I have encountered that purposely choose to post private conversations on the open board without agreement permission. Hell you are proud of it. So stop making excuses. It is wrong. Plain and simple. If that is how you roll then as far as I’m concerned you can fork off.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

You are all talk CM. I’ve been posting on boards like this for decades. You are the first person I have encountered that purposely choose to post private conversations on the open board without agreement permission. Hell you are proud of it. So stop making excuses. It is wrong. Plain and simple. If that is how you roll then as far as I’m concerned you can fork off.

This is a message board, Joe. Talk is all we do. And yes, I will absolutely expose people who behave like you. You constantly lie. You misrepresent what people say. You avoid real engagement and discussion. You ignore reality. You are disrespectful, rude, and downright shirtty to everyone you interact with on this board. If you want to defend yourself, go ahead. It would be a first from you and a welcome break from watching you clutch your pearls because someone actually refused to take your bullshirt non-answers at face value.

If you've been posting on boards like this for decades, you should appreciate people trying to have an honest conversation. I think the issue at hand, however, is that you have no damn clue what an honest conversation looks like. You're a 65-year-old man who behaves like a child.

 

[MT15]

You are all talk CM. I’ve been posting on boards like this for decades. You are the first person I have encountered that purposely choose to post private conversations on the open board without agreement permission. Hell you are proud of it. So stop making excuses. It is wrong. Plain and simple. If that is how you roll then as far as I’m concerned you can fork off.

So what was your point if you think he misrepresented it? And why are you saying different things in a private chat that you wouldn’t say to all of us? That concerns policies you support, to be clear, not something truly private like gossip or personal talk?

 

[TampaJoe]

This is a message board, Joe. Talk is all we do. And yes, I will absolutely expose people who behave like you. You constantly lie. You misrepresent what people say. You avoid real engagement and discussion. You ignore reality. You are disrespectful, rude, and downright shirtty to everyone you interact with on this board. If you want to defend yourself, go ahead. It would be a first from you and a welcome break from watching you clutch your pearls because someone actually refused to take your bullshirt non-answers at face value.

If you've been posting on boards like this for decades, you should appreciate people trying to have an honest conversation. I think the issue at hand, however, is that you have no damn clue what an honest conversation looks like. You're a 65-year-old man who behaves like a child.

You do what you want CM. I won’t waste anymore time on you. This isn’t some kind of war and you aren’t a crusader. It is an anonymous message board. I see it as it is. None of us are that important. Esp you.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

You do what you want CM. I won’t waste anymore time on you. This isn’t some kind of war and you aren’t a crusader. It is an anonymous message board. I see it as it is. None of us are that important. Esp you.

No, but this country is. And people like you treat it like a game. That's forked up.

 

[LA 2 L.A.]

You are all talk CM.

A whole lot of psychological projection going on here.

It is wrong. Plain and simple.

Dishonest and/or deceptive people always hate when people expose them and they always think it's "wrong" for people to expose them.

Private messages on boards like this come with no guarantee of staying private and are also bound by the same terms of service as public posts. Private messages are not a confession to a Catholic priest.

When someone uses private messages in a dishonest and inconsistent way from their public messages, you damn skippy I share their private message so that everyone can see the kind of person they are dealing with.

If you don't want your private messages shared, then don't be dishonest and/or deceptive in your private messages. Don't try to use them to be sneaky and underhanded. Don't say one thing in a private message and something inconsistent

 

[LA 2 L.A.]

This is a message board, Joe. Talk is all we do. And yes, I will absolutely expose people who behave like you. You constantly lie. You misrepresent what people say. You avoid real engagement and discussion. You ignore reality. You are disrespectful, rude, and downright shirtty to everyone you interact with on this board. If you want to defend yourself, go ahead. It would be a first from you and a welcome break from watching you clutch your pearls because someone actually refused to take your bullshirt non-answers at face value.

So what I'm hearing, @cuddlemonkey, is that you are publicly telling @TampaJoe to feel free to post your private message exchange to show everyone how you allegedly took what he wrote to you out of context. Am I hearing that right?

You're a 65-year-old man who behaves like a child.

Allegedly a 65 year old man.

 

[LA 2 L.A.]

This isn’t some kind of war and you aren’t a crusader.

Interesting phrasing. It almost sounds like the opposite of "I know you are, but what am I." It sounds like "No you're not, but I am."

 

[cuddlemonkey]

So what I'm hearing, @cuddlemonkey, is that you are publicly telling @TampaJoe to feel free to post your private message exchange to show everyone how you allegedly took what he wrote to you out of context. Am I hearing that right?


Allegedly a 65 year old man.

He can screenshot it and post it if he wants. Hell, I'll do it myself if anyone wants to see it.

Edit: Just to make sure there is no ambiguity, I have no problem with anyone taking what I say in private conversations on this board and reposting it. My opinions do not change between private and public conversations, and I am prepared to defend anything and everything that I say.