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J-DONK

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I'm pretty sure "believe all woman" was started by the left. Can you point out what person on the right started "believe all women"?
I assume he is talking about situations like DJT having Bill Clinton's accusers present for a debate. It's weird double think with conservatives. You attack the left with a position that you say doesn't matter for your guy.
 

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I assume he is talking about situations like DJT having Bill Clinton's accusers present for a debate. It's weird double think with conservatives. You attack the left with a position that you say doesn't matter for your guy.
I understand where you are coming from and it's hypocrisy by the right which is quite common in politics.

The left highlighted belive all women during the Kavanaugh hearings, but they quickly changed that standard once Biden was accused. Once again, hypocrisy.

"For a woman to come forward in the glaring lights of focus, nationally, you've got to start off with the presumption that at least the essence of what she's talking about is real," said Biden during the confirmation hearings for Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh, who faced accusations that as a teenager he had assaulted a woman at a party.
 

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It turns out that Cuomo was exactly the kind of person that the media spent years trying to convince us Trump was.
And it turns out that at least the left-wing media is willing to acknowledge reality instead of deflecting the issue by elevating more pressing stories like Dr. Seuss and Mr. Potato Head.
 

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Steve King? His party stripped him of committee and also primaried him where he lost big, so yeah, I have see the Rs do their own.
What about that Donald Trump guy? I think he might have been President somewhat recently.
 
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What about that Donald Trump guy? I think he might have been President not so recently.
What about former KKK member and Democratic Senator Robert Byrd? Biden delivered the eulogy at his funeral and Obama and Clinton both spoke there as well.
 

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And it turns out that at least the left-wing media is willing to acknowledge reality instead of deflecting the issue by elevating more pressing stories like Dr. Seuss and Mr. Potato Head.
They will acknowledge the reality only when it's politically expedient. Do you think it's a coincidence both Cuomo and the Lincoln Project were exposed shorty after the election?
 

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What about former KKK member and Democratic Senator Robert Byrd? Biden delivered the eulogy at his funeral and Obama and Clinton both spoke there as well.
They will acknowledge the reality only when it's politically expedient. Do you think it's a coincidence both Cuomo and the Lincoln Project were exposed shorty after the election?
See my response in the political lies thread. This what-about-ism to deflect from the wreckage Trump created is both laughable and dangerous.
 

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They will acknowledge the reality only when it's politically expedient. Do you think it's a coincidence both Cuomo and the Lincoln Project were exposed shorty after the election?
The Cuomo story broke when the Feds started investigating the nursing home deaths. The NY AG is who broke this thing wide open. I don't think this is a situation of throwing someone under the bus once your done with them. It's much like Watergate. The coverup was more scandalous then the actual crime as far as grabbing headlines. The mafia don persona, and attacks were next. Then came the sexual assault allegations after everyone got a hint of what the guy was like behind closed doors.

The only part of this that could be calculated is if the NY AG ends up running for governor. I don't see anything in this beyond personal ambition of one AG, possibly. The entire DNC stumbles, and fumbles around every primary desperately trying to beat a 78 year old jewish guy. How is that organization coming up with machiavellian plots to take down Trump, or their own.
 

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The thread is about Cuomo, but you are complaining whataboutism?
Well discuss topics should be kept in perspective
Sure the topic of Cuomo malfeasance does exist
But surely the idea that some posters refuse to be held to a standard so those posters lack credibility in any number of topics

“Cuomo screwed up and should be bounced - at the same time ‘you’ have demonstrated no ability to have an honest conversation about this topic”

If on SSF some one still claims that RyanLeaf should have been drafted before Manning, we don’t really need listen to their analysis of Manning, correct?
That is fair to say, no? (Btw that’s a general ‘you’ not you specifically)
 

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Well discuss topics should be kept in perspective
Sure the topic of Cuomo malfeasance does exist
But surely the idea that some posters refuse to be held to a standard so those posters lack credibility in any number of topics

“Cuomo screwed up and should be bounced - at the same time ‘you’ have demonstrated no ability to have an honest conversation about this topic”

If on SSF some one still claims that RyanLeaf should have been drafted before Manning, we don’t really need listen to their analysis of Manning, correct?
That is fair to say, no? (Btw that’s a general ‘you’ not you specifically)
Another version of don't criticize Democrats unless you also criticize Trump. Very transparent message board tactic.
 

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Another version of don't criticize Democrats unless you also criticize Trump. Very transparent message board tactic.
I’m not going to tell anyone not to criticize
But I will tell someone that they have zero credibility when they do criticize
Is that problematic?
 

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I gotta say, that some of the Democrat leadership regarding Cuomo has been terrible. Biden, Harris and Pelosi have all had tepid at best responses to questions about Cuomo resigning. When you have several women, both former staffers and non-staffers accusing him of harassment, not to mention the nursing home mess, it's clear to everyone paying attention that Cuomo needs to step down. Claiming that it's too soon to and that they need to see more evidence is ignoring the obvious.

At least the NY Senators and Representatives are calling for his resignation or impeachment. I've seen Schumer, Gillibrand and AOC all say he should resign. But, to not see it from the President, VP and Speaker of the House? That's a head scratcher for sure.
 

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I gotta say, that some of the Democrat leadership regarding Cuomo has been terrible. Biden, Harris and Pelosi have all had tepid at best responses to questions about Cuomo resigning. When you have several women, both former staffers and non-staffers accusing him of harassment, not to mention the nursing home mess, it's clear to everyone paying attention that Cuomo needs to step down. Claiming that it's too soon to and that they need to see more evidence is ignoring the obvious.

At least the NY Senators and Representatives are calling for his resignation or impeachment. I've seen Schumer, Gillibrand and AOC all say he should resign. But, to not see it from the President, VP and Speaker of the House? That's a head scratcher for sure.
its a state-level thing. the response has been appropriate, IMO. yeah, it's a big dog being NY, but the state party members are going after him, hard. probably better for the POTUS and heads of congress to monitor from the sidelines. At least for now.
 

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its a state-level thing. the response has been appropriate, IMO. yeah, it's a big dog being NY, but the state party members are going after him, hard. probably better for the POTUS and heads of congress to monitor from the sidelines. At least for now.
Maybe, but it's still a leadership thing. But instead of leading, they're sitting back and pretending that this thing is in doubt. It's indefensible imo. It's not better to sit on the sidelines when you're talking about sexual harassment and fraud. Sure, all of that is going to be litigated, but Cuomo pretending he's fine and everyone is out to get him just shows how tone deaf he is.
 

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The Cuomo story broke when the Feds started investigating the nursing home deaths. The NY AG is who broke this thing wide open. I don't think this is a situation of throwing someone under the bus once your done with them. It's much like Watergate. The coverup was more scandalous then the actual crime as far as grabbing headlines. The mafia don persona, and attacks were next. Then came the sexual assault allegations after everyone got a hint of what the guy was like behind closed doors.

The only part of this that could be calculated is if the NY AG ends up running for governor. I don't see anything in this beyond personal ambition of one AG, possibly. The entire DNC stumbles, and fumbles around every primary desperately trying to beat a 78 year old jewish guy. How is that organization coming up with machiavellian plots to take down Trump, or their own.
Bernie Sanders sort of disqualifies himself with his left-wing, bit misplaced rants or speeches in the past where he praised Castro's Cuba where at least in their daylong waits for bread and food rations, at least everyone in society, rich or poor, are waiting in line. Strange, asinine defense for praising lack of food and consumer goods in an one-party totalitarian communist dictatorship. He also praised late Hugo Chavez's ram-shackled running of Venezuela's once powerful, thriving oil/natural gas based economy to where the country's currency is equivalent to Zimbabwe and Venezuela has been caught up in an ongoing low-level civil war, violent civil unrest since 2014.

He also hesitated or refused to criticize Chavez's successor, Nicholas Maduro, human rights record of intimidating, harassing political opponents, dissidents, silencing or threatening or even shutting down opposition newspapers, Internet blogs, websites, and forcing a mass, humanitarian catastrophe where hundreds of thousands of ordinary Venezuelans fled to nearby Columbia, Brazil, or further into Central America, "Northern Triangle" countries---Belize, Guatemala, and Nicaragua.
 

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I gotta say, that some of the Democrat leadership regarding Cuomo has been terrible.
Terrible compared to what? I gotta say that I find you to be one of the more balanced republicans (or former republicans or true conservatives) on this board but I feel like this is another instance of Democrats being held to a higher standard than "others" who have been in the same situation.
 

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Terrible compared to what? I gotta say that I find you to be one of the more balanced republicans (or former republicans or true conservatives) on this board but I feel like this is another instance of Democrats being held to a higher standard than "others" who have been in the same situation.
Nope, they all should be held to the same standard. If it was a Republican, they'd get the same criticism from me.
 

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