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So @Farb, @SaintForLife, etc...

Now that you see that it's entirely possible to hold your own people accountable, is it really still "both sides"?
Of course it is. That's exactly why I say to hell with it. Sorry, Mrs. Obama, but if we go high when they go low then all we do is give them the leverage to put us on our arses. The Republicans changed the rules of the game a long time ago but Democrats continue to act like there's a high ground to be had. There isn't. They have to be beaten at their own game.

If there's evidence that Cuomo committed a crime then he should be held accountable. Allegations aren't enough. We've already been down this road with Al Franken. We let the right twist "Believe Women" into "Believe ALL Women ALL the time" and it's going to come back to bite us if we let it.
 

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Of course it is. That's exactly why I say to hell with it. Sorry, Mrs. Obama, but if we go high when they go low then all we do is give them the leverage to put us on our arses. The Republicans changed the rules of the game a long time ago but Democrats continue to act like there's a high ground to be had. There isn't. They have to be beaten at their own game.

If there's evidence that Cuomo committed a crime then he should be held accountable. Allegations aren't enough. We've already been down this road with Al Franken. We let the right twist "Believe Women" into "Believe ALL Women ALL the time" and it's going to come back to bite us if we let it.
The Right ? The RIGHT ? Oh c'mon; that was ALWAYS a left-wing "progressive" technique. At least for as long as the accused men where right-wing.
Then some left-wing people where accused, and the #metoo movement suddenly went quiet.
 

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The Right ? The RIGHT ? Oh c'mon; that was ALWAYS a left-wing "progressive" technique. At least for as long as the accused men where right-wing.
Then some left-wing people where accused, and the #metoo movement suddenly went quiet.
bullshirt. #metoo kicked off with Harvey Weinstein, a Democrat.
 

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bullshirt. #metoo kicked off with Harvey Weinstein, a Democrat.
Actually, it started back in 2006, but you are right; the precursor to the Weinstein case probably brought it to the public consciousness. But before that case really got going, it was used against Brett Kavanaugh, among others.
 

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Then some left-wing people where accused, and the #metoo movement suddenly went quiet.
Actually, it started back in 2006, but you are right; the precursor to the Weinstein case probably brought it to the public consciousness. But before that case really got going, it was used against Brett Kavanaugh, among others.
I never said there weren’t right-wing people who were accused in the metoo movement. I was pointing out that your accusation that once left-wingers were accused the movement “went silent” is total revisionist history.
 

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Cuomo is being held accountable by his party.

It is pathetic that some people can’t acknowledge that because their sides failure to hold their own accountable makes them defensive.
 

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Steve King? His party stripped him of committee and also primaried him where he lost big, so yeah, I have see the Rs do their own.

Cuomo is targeted by the DNC because he is an jerk, as per his own side and the sexual allegations were brought out to deflect from the real scandal of the nursing home death cover up. If the media would focus on that (they won't), they might find some dirt on the Ds since this practice of putting covid positive patients in nursing homes and disable homes was adopted by most D governors during the lockdowns. That could be really messy for the DNC in 2022 elections. This way, they can virtue signal that they are cleaning their own house of sexual misconduct while covering up the true crime. This is all my opinion and I am sure most of you will disagree.
 

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This is all my opinion and I am sure most of you will disagree.
King served as an elected racist for 18 years and was stripped of his committee assignments only after he became an albatross to the Republican party. Being primaried and losing might be in the same universe but not in the same galaxy as your own party calling for your resignation and taking steps to remove him from office because he is ignoring calls to leave.

Democrats, while not perfect, is the only party willing to hold their own accountable. And that accountability isn't in the form of stripping committee assignments and running a candidate against them. It's in the form of taking active steps to remove someone from office. We just witnessed 4 years of Republicans looking the other way or just straight up acknowledging that they wouldn't listen to evidence and KNOWINGLY voting to acquit a CLEARLY guilty person.

I was reading your post thinking to myself, "surely he can't be serious" before I got to the last sentence quoted above. I felt a sense of "oh, okay that explains it" because for the most part, your opinions have not been based in any semblance of objective reality.
 

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Steve King? His party stripped him of committee and also primaried him where he lost big, so yeah, I have see the Rs do their own.

Cuomo is targeted by the DNC because he is an jerk, as per his own side and the sexual allegations were brought out to deflect from the real scandal of the nursing home death cover up. If the media would focus on that (they won't), they might find some dirt on the Ds since this practice of putting covid positive patients in nursing homes and disable homes was adopted by most D governors during the lockdowns. That could be really messy for the DNC in 2022 elections. This way, they can virtue signal that they are cleaning their own house of sexual misconduct while covering up the true crime. This is all my opinion and I am sure most of you will disagree.
I do think the nursing home deaths should be the lead scandal, and not the sexual assault allegations. That policy was an issue even for many Democrats going back to last summer. What ultimately got Cuomo in even more trouble was the coverup. I don't remember it being more then 4-5 states that had this policy, or at least not the ones named by Republicans at the time. I feel like if you are going to talk about this in good faith then we should also talk about the liability shield. That is a core piece of the situation in New York that allowed nursing homes to ignore any, and all guidelines. The liability shield is/was popular in conservative circles. You won't hear much about it for that reason.
 

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Well before I get sent on my next vacation, LOL @ "He should step down" is being held super accountable. I mean in no way should it be a shock to any one that it would come back to Trump. Though no one can remember when a ton of R's wanted him to step down immediately after the "grab'em by the wutang" tape. Besides Al Franken who was help accountable? and let's be real the deal with Al was bullshirt and even Gillibrand came around to admitting she probably acted to soon. Then we have a politician saying it will take 5 or more accusers before saying Cuomo should resign. WOW really holding him accountable there.

I'll end on this. The National media spent a year sucking up all they could to Cuomo. I mean worshiping this guy. FFS they gave the dude a ****ing Emmy and it has taken a 7th accuser for it to even start making any news. There is no way and I mean zero chance of this guy stepping down. I'll even set the chance of him being impeached or anything like that at 10%.
 

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So @Farb, @SaintForLife, etc...

Now that you see that it's entirely possible to hold your own people accountable, is it really still "both sides"?
😆 Oh please

The nursing home debacle where thousands of patients died due to his order while he was helping his donors wasn't enough for Democrats to call for him to resign?

Cuomo's behavior wasn't a secret and it was known about for a while. The Democrats and the media ignored his past behavior and his actions with the nursing homes because it was politically expedient. Cuomo was seen as someome who they could use to hurt Trump. As soon as Trump was gone and their use for him was done they discarded him just like they did with the Lincoln Project.

 

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Of course it is. That's exactly why I say to hell with it. Sorry, Mrs. Obama, but if we go high when they go low then all we do is give them the leverage to put us on our arses. The Republicans changed the rules of the game a long time ago but Democrats continue to act like there's a high ground to be had. There isn't. They have to be beaten at their own game.

If there's evidence that Cuomo committed a crime then he should be held accountable. Allegations aren't enough. We've already been down this road with Al Franken. We let the right twist "Believe Women" into "Believe ALL Women ALL the time" and it's going to come back to bite us if we let it.
I'm pretty sure "believe all woman" was started by the left. Can you point out what person on the right started "believe all women"?
 

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