Elon Musk Forms The America Party (1 Viewer)

[Saint Jack]

This is gonna be another Ross Perot for the gop in 28.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/musk-says-america-party-formed-195737216.html

 

[longtime lurker]

Here’s to it splitting the right just enough come midterms and ‘28.

 

[Saint Jack]

Here’s to it splitting the right just enough come midterms and ‘28.

Here’s hoping the Dems don’t take it for granted like 16 and 24.

 

[LA 2 L.A.]

This is gonna be another Ross Perot for the gop in 28.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/musk-says-america-party-formed-195737216.html

And Ross Perot didn't have twitter and Grok as weapons of mass disinformation and gaslighting like Musk does. I think more Republican voters will be swayed by Musk than Democratic or independent voters. The Democrats can win if they lose some independent voters to Musk, the Republicans can not.

Another significant difference, Musk is not eligible to run for president like Perot did.

 

[zztop]

Musk did not say where the party may be registered. It did not appear to be registered with the Federal Election Committee.

He also said that the party would caucus independently and that “legislative discussions would be had with both parties,”

 

[LA 2 L.A.]

Musk did not say where the party may be registered. It did not appear to be registered with the Federal Election Committee.

He also said that the party would caucus independently and that “legislative discussions would be had with both parties,”

I don't expect him to formally create a party. I think he's just going to use it as a rallying cry to sway votes away from Trump's Republicans.

 

[bird]

There is no party. There likely will only be a party that runs a presidential candidate.

To actually create a party that competes at all levels of government takes money (which he does have if he cashes in shares/sells companies), time, patience (which he doesn’t have at all) and a whole bunch of people. The danger here is that said party would end up being as much of a cult as the Republican Party.

There is also the winner take all election methodology as well as the system established by the constitution which is what the system grew out of. Those two things do not easily allow for more than two parties. The actual problem has been the loss of progressive, moderate and conservative wings within the two parties. That was driven by Reagan and the rise of Newt Gingrich and his band of arrogant idiots. The Tea Party followed that and then the MAGA driven backlash against the Black guy getting elected president. We also must include the media in this as well. A lot of people to blame.

Of course, I could be wrong.

 

[Optimus Prime]

“You want a new political party and you shall have it!” Elon Musk declared in early July.

The world’s richest man is never one to shy away from grandiose statements, and he continued: “When it comes to bankrupting our country with waste & graft, we live in a one-party system, not a democracy. Today, the America Party is formed to give you back your freedom.”

The America party, Musk hopes, will be a viable alternative to the Democratic and Republicanparties: a political organization that can influence the future of US politics. He has mooted running candidates for two to three Senate seats and up to 10 House districts. Given the tight divide between Republicans and Democrats in Congress, Musk believes capturing the small number of seats “would be enough to serve as the deciding vote on contentious laws”.


Given there is consistently strong support for an alternative to the Big Two parties, it should be a good idea, right?

Wrong, said Bernard Tamas, professor of political science at Valdosta State University and author of The Demise and Rebirth of American Third Parties.

“At this moment in American politics, I see no evidence that you’re going to get another party winning seats in Congress and actually being able to have an impact in the government,” Tamas said.

“It’s not just the money that Democrats and Republicans have. They have all the resources. They have the money. They have 150 years of structure. They have all the professional politicians, and they have all the consultants, and they have all the Madison Avenue ad companies working for them.”

The whole concept of the America party seemingly came together in a matter of weeks, following the famous row between Musk and Donald Trump. And as with many ideas born out of spite and fury, certain elements appear to have not been fully thought through. Americaparty.com, for example, is already registered to someone else, who now appears to be trying to sell the domain name for $6.9m. On X, which Musk owns, @AmericaParty was already taken, so the new venture had to opt for @AmericaPartyX.

It’s not yet clear what the party will stand for, beyond opposition to Republicans’ ballooning of the national debt. Musk has yet to elaborate on the “contentious laws” his politicians would challenge, and there is no party platform or manifesto.


In any case, third parties have rarely, if ever, been successful in the way Musk envisages. But where they can make a difference is in highlighting issues and pressuring the main two parties to act.

“In terms of the parties that really had a big impact, they didn’t win seats,” Tamas said. “The job of third parties is disruption. It’s to sting like a bee. It’s to cause pain.”………

Elon Musk claims his America party will change US politics. Experts disagree

The billionaire says the America party will challenge the system, but third-party bids rarely make it far in the US

www.theguardian.com

 

[barbar]

If americaparty.com is already taken he could try calling it something else...like lemonparty perhaps?

 

[SystemShock]

This is gonna be another Ross Perot for the gop in 28.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/musk-says-america-party-formed-195737216.html

You never know. Surely it can flame out, and/or end up like the Perot situation like you say, but, that's how the MORENA party started in México just 14 years ago by a guy who a lot of people thought to be kind of a lunatic, who 7 years later after MORENA was established, ended up being elected president.

Now they control everything: presidency, congress (both uses), governorships, the courts (after the court elections this year)... they are the majority by themselves, made a supermajority by affiliated political parties.

Musk can't run for president, but they (Musk and whoever is with him) just need to find one charismatic man that says the right things that resonate the right way with a chunk of voters.

 

[Bolo]

Our country is cooked without term limits, stock trading bans, having members of congress put their assets into blind trusts before getting up to DC which force them to only live on their salaries. 20-25 year bans after leaving office on jobs that are lobbyist, working with PAC's, board members, consultants, contractors or anything to do with any entity that deals with the federal government or government in general. Serve and go home, its not a career.

and.. 261 work days to equal a monday thru friday worker at your average government job that gets their 11 federal holidays off which brings it to 250 days. None of this bull 136 days like the house in 2025 or 179 days like the Senate. Oh boo-hoo, you had to burn the midnight oil to pass a terrible bill recently and you'll have to do it again later in the year to pass the yearly NDAA bill.