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    You do know it was the natural gas, coal and nuclear contracts that failed to deliver during that ice storm right? Most of the failure came from them, not from the wind power generation contracts.
    I read, and might be mistaken, that natural gas was the main problem, followed by wind. Very little of the Texas power grid is on coal or nuclear, compared to the first two. Is that not correct?
     

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    Until you are cold and the wind farms freeze up like in texas.
    You really have no idea what happened in Texas last year, do you?

    Wind power doesn’t freeze up unless the local people do not weatherize the turbines. We use wind power in the North all year long. The loss of power had nothing to do with wind or natural gas and everything to do with failure to properly prepare for cold weather.
     
    And I'd imagine weatherizing the wind farm turbines is as simple/practical as de-icing an airplane so no reason Abbot couldn't have a handle on that. That is, there is nothing inherent in wind energy that makes is extremely difficult or impractical to manage during extreme weather events.
     
    Until you are cold and the wind farms freeze up like in texas.

    No. It's why the Grid 2.0 is so necessary. Electric heat is so much more efficient and oil is absolutely necessary for plastics and lubricants. In every instance where burning oil can be replaced, it should be because the supply is finite.
    It's so shortsighted to just burn it, whether to heat a home or to power a car.
     
    Until you are cold and the wind farms freeze up like in texas.
    During this most recent heat wave, I read that wind and solar are carrying 40% of the load (at least at some point). Not too bad considering Texas is an "oil state" with its own grid. Also, it was the gas plants that froze during the winter storm, not the wind farms. The main reason is that Texas is on its own grid so that we can let "Texas run Texas," and not have to abide by all those liberal regulations. Well, those "liberal regulations" would have made the electricity providers winterize their plants and would have prevented all that.
     
    I think atm more Americans would prefer an EV over a gas vehicle, but that’s at the moment. Prior to this spike Americans preferred their gas guzzlers more than EVs to the tune of 2 out of 3.





    And why not? An EV will get you 230 miles on a fully charged battery? That’s fine for your day to day 30-60 mile round trip drive, but for a cross country drive (which more folks will be doing since airline prices are sky high), the gas vehicle is the way to go.

    The price for a used EV is also higher than a standard gas vehicle. Even over a 3 year period the gas vehicle is cheaper than the EV.


    In time, when prices drop, and batteries can get more millage, perhaps it will make sense to buy an EV over a traditional gas vehicle, but with money being tight, now is not that time.
    That was why I put "all things being equal" in there. I understand the issues of electric right now. But, as was discussed, if you can get 300-350 miles per charge with a 20 minute recharge or battery exchange (with more charging stations at work), that will get you to the all things being equal, and you will see even more people wanting electric.
     
    No. It's why the Grid 2.0 is so necessary. Electric heat is so much more efficient and oil is absolutely necessary for plastics and lubricants. In every instance where burning oil can be replaced, it should be because the supply is finite.
    It's so shortsighted to just burn it, whether to heat a home or to power a car.
    Where do you think electric comes from? At this point, fossil fuels are much more practical. In the future, hopefully not, but right now, this administration has said it plans to destroy the fossil fuel industry and force a diversification and then it wonders why there are no investigates to help with the problem they created. Typical leftist policy that has no basis in the current and real world.
     
    That was why I put "all things being equal" in there. I understand the issues of electric right now. But, as was discussed, if you can get 300-350 miles per charge with a 20 minute recharge or battery exchange (with more charging stations at work), that will get you to the all things being equal, and you will see even more people wanting electric.
    With the major limitation on electric and during a recession, do you really think that most Americans want to spend 80K on an electric car? Right now and especially in this current economic catastrophe is not the best time for the government to 'force' the population to go to renewable energy that is just not as efficient.
     
    With the major limitation on electric and during a recession, do you really think that most Americans want to spend 80K on an electric car? Right now and especially in this current economic catastrophe is not the best time for the government to 'force' the population to go to renewable energy that is just not as efficient.
    Are you incapable of reading what I wrote or are you deliberately trying to avoid my statement? “All things being equal” means just that. Electric car prices are dropping. When they are comparable to gas and you can quickly charge/change batteries, you will see demand really increase.

    No one is being “forced” to buy electric. You said earlier that you recently bought a gas powered car. The length you will go to victimize yourself is comical.
     
    Where do you think electric comes from? At this point, fossil fuels are much more practical. In the future, hopefully not, but right now, this administration has said it plans to destroy the fossil fuel industry and force a diversification and then it wonders why there are no investigates to help with the problem they created. Typical leftist policy that has no basis in the current and real world.
    Around here? Hydropower.
    Wind.
    Solar.
    Natural gas.
    Coal and diesel generators are just the dingleberry, failed leftovers of crony capitalism.
    The sooner we let them die, the better.
     
    That was why I put "all things being equal" in there. I understand the issues of electric right now. But, as was discussed, if you can get 300-350 miles per charge with a 20 minute recharge or battery exchange (with more charging stations at work), that will get you to the all things being equal, and you will see even more people wanting electric.
    Yes, I am sure that “All things being equal” (quicker battery recharge times, cheaper prices, more miles charged, etc.) would lead more people to owning EVs, but we aren’t there yet, which is why more folks prefer their gas powered vehicles to EVs.
     
    ERCOT is going to ERCOT. We keep getting messages from our utility company asking us to conserve energy during the hours of 12pm-7pm as not to strain the grid. Freaking ERCOT, has me feel like I am living in California.
     
    Where do you think electric comes from? At this point, fossil fuels are much more practical. In the future, hopefully not, but right now, this administration has said it plans to destroy the fossil fuel industry and force a diversification and then it wonders why there are no investigates to help with the problem they created. Typical leftist policy that has no basis in the current and real world.
    We don't burn much oil. Natural gas, coal, nuclear, and renewables make up most of our fuels.

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