What happens to the Republican Party now? (5 Viewers)

coldseat said:

All of this anti-LGBTQ rhetoric is going to get people killed. We already saw what a group was going to do in Idaho. This hate will keep spreading through the Christian right.

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And when it does, they’ll completely deny their rhetoric had anything to do with it

brandon said:

Man, this is just an incredibly naieve take in 2022.

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Dave, you are a good dude….but I feel you are terribly naive…If memory serves a number of folks on this board predicted something like what happened on Jan 6th and you didn’t think it would happen….(if I’m mistaken I apologize)….I would think that would have been enough for you to not repeat that same naivety…..

SFIDC3 said:

Dave, you are a good dude….but I feel you are terribly naive…If memory serves a number of folks on this board predicted something like what happened on Jan 6th and you didn’t think it would happen….(if I’m mistaken I apologize)….I would think that would have been enough for you to not repeat that same naivety…..

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I never stated I didn't think a riot would happen. I did say I didn't think a coup would succeed and I stated that Trump would either leave on his own or the Secret Service would carry him out. Trump left of his own accord. Certainly didn't want to but he didn't have a choice. Some posters said he'd use the military to effect a coup attempt, but that never happened. And it wouldn't because the military would refuse to participate in any actual coup attempt regardless who the President is. Maybe you're thinking of someone else?

Optimus Prime said:

And when it does, they’ll completely deny their rhetoric had anything to do with it

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Of course.

More insanity...

Booker said:

More insanity...

GOP commission refuses to certify New Mexico primary vote

New Mexico’s secretary of state on Tuesday asked the state Supreme Court to order the Republican-led commission of rural Otero County to certify primary election results after it refused to do so over distrust of Dominion vote-tallying machines. Democratic Secretary of State Maggie Toulouse...

www.yahoo.com

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I’m pretty sure a Trumpist election denier just won the R primary for Secretary of State in NM last night. Hopefully he won’t win, or this will be encouraged next time. Any election the Rs don’t win will be uncertified and re-done.

From the article- the county election board found no irregularities, they just don’t trust Diminion machines.

“Under state law, county canvass boards can call on a voting precinct board to address specific discrepancies, but no discrepancies were identified on Monday by the Otero commission.

“The post-election canvassing process is a key component of how we maintain our high levels of election integrity in New Mexico and the Otero County Commission is flaunting that process by appeasing unfounded conspiracy theories and potentially nullifying the votes of every Otero County voter who participated in the primary,” Toulouse Oliver said in a statement. She accused the commission of willful violations of the state election code.

New Mexico uses paper ballots that can be double-checked later in all elections, and also relies on tabulation machines to rapidly tally votes while minimizing human error. Election results also are audited by random samplings to verify levels of accuracy in the vote count.”

DaveXA said:

He's turning into...Trump? I hope not.

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hmm well pretty close. Seems to have fully given himself to supporting authoritarian figures

DaveXA said:

I never stated I didn't think a riot would happen. I did say I didn't think a coup would succeed and I stated that Trump would either leave on his own or the Secret Service would carry him out. Trump left of his own accord. Certainly didn't want to but he didn't have a choice. Some posters said he'd use the military to effect a coup attempt, but that never happened. And it wouldn't because the military would refuse to participate in any actual coup attempt regardless who the President is. Maybe you're thinking of someone else?

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Ok….apologies then….

zztop said:

without knowing anything about the person, my first guess is people punished him for doing the right thing

Rice loses House seat after impeaching Trump; Mace holds on

U.S. Rep. Tom Rice of South Carolina has been ousted from Congress in his Republican primary after voting to impeach Donald Trump over the Jan. 6 insurrection.

apnews.com

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Probably. The 7th District were Rice was running is deep red, and rural except Myrtle Beach.

Mace's district (Charleston area) is purple, urban by SC standards, and higher education and income demographics.

Lost his seat but kept his integrity.

Guess this can go here

The grifting never stops
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Donald Trump Jr has reportedly invited his father’s backers to sign the ex-president’s online birthday card, so long as they donate money to his fundraising group.

According to Insider, Trump’s eldest son made this pitch in an email to supporters, writing, “My father has done so much for this great Country, and I know it would mean so much to him to see YOUR NAME on his OFFICIAL Birthday Card.” Trump was born on 14 June 1946.

The email contained a link that lets Trump loyalists write a message to him. However, they have to pledge a minimum $1 donation to send their good wishes……

Speaking of grifting, here is an interview with an author who has been looking at this grifting targeting conservatives for decades:

“At least since the 1960s, Perlstein argues, conservative elites have seen extremist tendencies on the right as a ripe target for manipulation, for the purposes of mobilizing mass political movements. That has often shaded into money-raising schemes that smack of outright grift.

Perlstein has traced this pattern from Barry Goldwater’s 1964 Republican presidential campaign through conservative activist Richard Viguerie’s self-serving direct mail fundraising in the 1970s. It runs through Ronald Reagan’s 1966 bid for governor of California, his 1980 presidential race and even his hawking of miracle cancer cures.

It goes through Newt Gingrich’s 1994 House takeover and then through the tea party. Now, it runs right down to Trump’s monumental stolen-election scam.
I reached out to Perlstein to make sense of the latest developments. An edited and condensed version of our conversation follows.”

From the article above, really scary stuff:

Perlstein: Right-wing voters are acclimated into an understanding of the world in which they are being victimized by dark forces. That’s a great way for conservative leaders to get money shoveled in their direction. But it’s also a great way to form what Marxists used to call a “cadre,” a group of fanatically dedicated followers.

Now we face the phenomenon of millions of people, many of them armed, who are identifying their own safety, comfort and flourishing as human beings with the political success of Donald Trump and his allies.

I hope this isn’t behind a paywall, it’s very educational:

Sargent: Does the fact that Republican leaders aren’t unambiguously condemning these tendencies fit into a broader history, in which conservative elites have frequently failed to police extremists on the right?

Perlstein: One of the patterns since time immemorial is that mainstream conservative Republican leaders have fully understood that they benefit from these forces politically.

That was precisely the context for Barry Goldwater’s convention speech, when he said “extremism in defense of liberty is no vice.” That was his way of saying to the extremists: “I don’t intend to condemn you. I welcome you into our fold.”

Booker said:

More insanity...

GOP commission refuses to certify New Mexico primary vote

New Mexico’s secretary of state on Tuesday asked the state Supreme Court to order the Republican-led commission of rural Otero County to certify primary election results after it refused to do so over distrust of Dominion vote-tallying machines. Democratic Secretary of State Maggie Toulouse...

www.yahoo.com

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I would just say screw them. If that county can't get it's act together, they don't get a representative (or whatever it is they were electing). It's going to be Republican anyway, so let them cannibalize themselves for being such idiots.

coldseat said:

I would just say screw them. If that county can't get it's act together, they don't get a representative (or whatever it is they were electing). It's going to be Republican anyway, so let them cannibalize themselves for being such idiots.

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As further proof, from the article...

Interesting discussion on Trump in 24
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The rumors are ricocheting in every direction: Yes way. No way. Now. Never. (Not to mention the healthy contingent of “no clue.”)

The subject? Whether Donald Trump will run for president again in 2024.

Barring a crystal ball, there’s only one way to find out the former guy’s plans for sure. So we again assembled our crack team of Post Pundit Power Rankers and plumbed their ultimate, infallible wisdom for an answer to the question: Will Trump run?

Molly Roberts: YES.​

He hated the job, but he loved the attention. The only way Trump can stop people from saying he’s a loser is to win again — and while he could just claim credit for the victory of someone he anoints, could he really bear the spotlight shining on anyone except him?

Besides, the list of alternatives is slim enough that some conservatives may think the former commander in chief is their best shot. With enough people telling him that he alone can fix it, Trump and his ego might not be able to resist.

Eugene Robinson: NO.​

Trump will pretend to run, and he might even at some point announce that he’s running. But the question is whether he will actually run for president again, and I think not.

He won’t risk losing yet again, and besides, being a former president is less hassle and more fun than actually having to pretend to listen to all the boring officials and members of Congress and generals with all their uninspiring issues.

Emperor in exile is a role that suits Trump, and he still gets to run the Republican Party and make supplicants abase themselves for his amusement…….