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    This election nonsense by Trump may end up splitting up the Republican Party. I just don’t see how the one third (?) who are principled conservatives can stay in the same party with Trump sycophants who are willing to sign onto the TX Supreme Court case.

    We also saw the alt right types chanting “destroy the GOP” in Washington today because they didn’t keep Trump in power. I think the Q types will also hold the same ill will toward the traditional Republican Party. In fact its quite possible that all the voters who are really in a Trump personality cult will also blame the GOP for his loss. It’s only a matter of time IMO before Trump himself gets around to blaming the GOP.

    There is some discussion of this on Twitter. What do you all think?



     
    All the MATH books must be banned. ALL OF THEM. Math by way of Flordia.

    When Florida released the names Monday of the 54 math textbooks it had rejected, most for allegedly including “critical race theory” or other “prohibited topics,” I was struck by how the publishers had adjusted their titles to reflect the state’s singular interpretation of the subject matter.

    The books had names such as “Florida Reveal Math,” or “Florida’s B.E.S.T. Math,” or simply “Florida Math.” The titles essentially codified what Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis’s censorship program has accomplished: There is math — and then there is Florida math.

    On one level, we already understood that “Florida math” is not the same thing as “math”:

    Problem 1: In an election, the Republican candidate gets 232 electoral votes and the Democratic candidate gets 306. Who won?

    Answer: It was rigged.

    Problem 2: Florida had 153 coronavirus deaths per 100,000 people over the past year while California had only 58 per 100,000. How much higher is Florida’s death rate?

    Answer: I’m going to do my own research.

    It’s easy to laugh at Florida’s claim that it rejected 28 math textbooks over “publishers’ attempts to indoctrinate students” with such “special topics” as CRT, “culturally responsive teaching,” “social justice” and “social emotional learning.”

    But then I opened the 2020 edition of one of the banned textbooks, Cengage’s “Precalculus With Limits” — and was horrified by the “indoctrinating concepts” I saw. If this is Precalculus With Limits, I’d hate to see the kind without limits.

    At a time when Floridians by law “don’t say gay,” much less “trans,” this banned book brazenly teaches about the “Transitive Property of Equality.” Not only are impressionable minds taught about the “transformation of functions,” but also they are even indoctrinated in “describing transformations” and — appallingly — “sketching transformations.”

    At a time when DeSantis is trying to restore the traditional definition of marriage as between a man and a woman, “Precalculus With Limits” has endless references to “sin” and “polynomials” — even “multiplying polynomials.” On Page 318, for example, it tells children to believe that “sin x takes on its full range of values.” Valuing sin! On Page 734, incredibly, it orders children to “sketch the graph of the degenerate conic.” Disgusting.

    At a time when Florida is banning the acknowledgment of gender fluidity or any identity outside male and female, this subversive textbook unabashedly tells suggestible children that such things exist as “reciprocal identities,” “cofunction identities,” “additive identity property” and even “multiplicative identity property.”
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    nolaspe said:
    MaThS iS hArD...

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    Lol, the tweet is gone, but the receipts live on...

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    I cannot wait to see how this Florida vs Disney battle blows up in Florida's face! The whole idea behind the Reedy Creek deal was that they would would maintain their own infrastructure and services. If Republicans succeed in their latest venture, the onus could be on the state and its citizens.

    Disney has self-governed itself for more than 50 years. In 1967, the Florida state legislature created the Reedy Creek Improvement District (RCID) which acts with the same authority and responsibility as a county government.

    According to historical documents, the government created two municipalities within RCID — Bay Lake and Reedy Creek, later named Lake Buena Vista — nestled between Orange and Osceola Counties.

    Since Walt Disney World is the primary landowner of RCID, it is solely responsible for paying the cost of providing municipal services like power, water, roads and fire protection. Walt Disney pushed for the creation of this district since the nearest power and water lines were 10 to 15 miles away.


    With this special status, Disney was able to build roads and buildings and provide services without asking for the permission of a county government. Residents of Orange and Osceola Counties do not pay taxes for these services unless they are residents of the district.
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    According to the RCID’s annual financial report for 2021, it carries a debt of nearly $1 billion. As required by Florida law, all that debt would be assumed by Orange and Osceola counties.

    ...According to Farmer’s assessments, each family in Orange and Osceola counties would likely pay upwards of $2,200 if the counties assumed the debt.

    Taxpayers would also become responsible for items Disney currently pays for, like road improvements and other mandatory public services. Battles between taxpayers and county governments would become more likely, like the outrage seen when Orange County approved a controversial $125 million road deal with Orlando’s Universal Studios.
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    thehill.com

    Explained: DeSantis’s effort to end Disney’s self-government power

    Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) is trying to strip Walt Disney World, “The Most Magical Place on Earth,” of its self-government power amid an ongoing battle with the state’s biggest…
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    Rob Reiner quote on Twitter today. --

    It couldn't be more simple. A vote for Republicans is a vote to destroy Democracy.

    It's a tragedy that more Americans can't comprehend this simple fact after Jan 6.
     
    Here’s another problem with the DeSantis regime: yes, everyone has the right to criticize them. It’s still America. And this isn’t the first time she and/or DeSantis has said that people don’t have the right to criticize them. It’s very North Korea-like.

     
    Also this discussion about DeSantis’ Disney vengeance bill from the Biden thread belongs here:

    MT15 said:
    Well, if what I am reading is correct, the way you have characterized it sounds fine, but isn’t close to the reality of the situation. And I freely admit I have no specialized knowledge of this. But from what I have gathered, the way Disney’s deal is structured would leave local taxpayers on the hook for the bonds that were granted, and also on the hook for fire and police protection on Disney grounds. One estimate was an additional 2k for every taxpayer in two FL counties.

    This sorry episode illustrates what is wrong with DeSantis. He’s clearly pissed off that Disney dared to oppose one of his pet laws, so he just shoots from the hip and is trying to ram this through the legislature very quickly without considering who would really be hurt. We don’t need more narcissistic leaders who only care about themselves and their political ambitions and care nothing about doing what is best for their people.

    Maybe he could have come up with a better way to structure the proposed law? Maybe he could just allow someone to disagree with him without declaring war? I don’t know, he seems reckless and self-centered to me.
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    yep, Disney got punished for weakly going against an authoritarian governor. And by punished, they are now beholden to the local government for things like maintenance of roads going into the park. That red tape will show them! Oh and also now taxpayers are on the hook for almost a billion :

    Disney currently pays property and other taxes to both counties. In addition, the company, as the primary landowner at Reedy Creek, provided most of the $153 million in revenue from taxes and fees that the district collected in fiscal 2021. That money covers all of the district’s governing expenses, including paying about 400 employees’ salaries and servicing about $977 million in long-term bond debt that Reedy Creek has issued over the years.

    If the district is dissolved, that debt would become the responsibility of the taxpayers in Orange and Osceola counties
     
    Yeah, and if Florida has to institute an income tax, I doubt that will go over very well either. Like I said above - a hot-headed move by DeSantis without considering the consequences just because a company dared to criticize his law. Just what we want in a CIC - NOT! 🙄
     
    I don’t live in FL but it would be intriguing to see the response from DeathSantis if the Mouse threatened to pull out of FL.

    You don’t flock with the Mouse.
     
    I'm hoping all of this turmoil corporate America is going through with both Russia's invasion and now the Republican Revenge politics will get them to finally realize that a stable, rational and fair political/societal environment is just as important as profits.

    Edit: I should also add democratic to that list. Because all of the turmoil they're experiencing is caused by authoritarianism.
     
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    I don’t live in FL but it would be intriguing to see the response from DeathSantis if the Mouse threatened to pull out of FL.

    You don’t flock with the Mouse.
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    They won't pull out of Fla, but the repubs will look for more ways to get revenge when the Mouse quits putting money in their campaign accounts..
    They are doing this because they think it will hurt Disney finacially, but what they are really doing is just costing the customers more money. Disney will recoup any money lost by taking it out of the pockets of the customers. But hey, if it keeps more republicans out of Disney, it truly makes it the happiest place on earth..
     
    This article is from a couple years ago
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    Dear Reader,

    I know that after reading the title of this essay you will think that I am contributing to the coarsening of the public discourse. I beg to differ. To support my position, I want to share with you a story from the African-American preaching tradition. There was an old preacher preaching a sermon from Matthew 7:1 where Jesus teaches: “Judge not that you be not judged.”

    The old preacher said. “If you see a tree and there are apples growing from it, and you call the tree an apple tree, that is not a judgment. That is a description.”

    When I say that Donald Trump and Republicans in the United States Senate are liars, hypocrites, thieves and cheats, that is not a judgment, that is a description.

    According to the Washington Post, Trump has made more than 20,000 false or misleading claims. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...e-more-than-20000-false-or-misleading-claims/) This article was written in July. God only knows what the number is now.

    In 2016, when Mitch McConnell refused to give Judge Merrick Garland the respect of a hearing or a vote after President Obama nominated him for a seat on the United States Supreme Court, he and his Republican colleagues justified the denial on the grounds of something they called the Biden Rule. No such rule exists. They were lying. I have already written about this more than once. (https://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/2018/07/04/faith-in-the-face-of-bad-faith/)……

    www.tikkun.org

    When Liars, Hypocrites, Thieves, and Cheats Rule Tikkun

    In this essay, Valerie Elverton Dixon says that to call President Trump and senate Republicans liars, hypocrites, thieves, and cheats is not a judgment, rather it is a description. She reminds us of the wisdom of Proverbs that says when the wicked rule the people groan.
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    Great article, Optimus. This is the failing of the modern press and media. We have had two major failures in our institutions that have got us to this place.

    First the failure of the Republican Party to take action on their own when they offend truth and betray their oaths of office. This part didn’t fail us when Nixon was president, but the party has failed us miserably now.

    The second is the press and media. They insist on treating every lie, every betrayal of country and Constitution, as just the other side of a two-sided coin. Bending over backwards to try to “not judge” or be “impartial” they have normalized this perversion of our country and constitution until the proof of lying by Republican leaders is just another day.

    We could easily survive as a nation with one of the above failures, but both of them failing us at the same time puts us in a very precarious position. I hope one (at least) wakes up before things have gone too far.
     
    so apparently it wasn't just the disney special district, but all of them:

    There are 1844 Special Districts in Florida. They are responsible for all their own costs and management. Other Districts include the Central Florida Expressway, one of the major toll road authorities, the Orlando International Airport, and Republican dominated "The Villages". All those costs now fall to the counties they are in.
     
    coldseat said:
    All the MATH books must be banned. ALL OF THEM. Math by way of Flordia.


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    That Rufo guy is a piece of work

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    After the Florida Department of Education rejected dozens of math textbooks last week, the big question was, Why?

    The department said some of the books “contained prohibited topics” from social-emotional learning or critical race theory — but it has released only four specific textbook pages showing content to which it objects.

    Using online sample materials provided by publishers to Florida school districts, The New York Times was able to review 21 of the rejected books and see what may have led the state to reject them. Because Florida has released so few details about its textbook review process, it is unknown whether these examples led to the rejections. But they do illustrate the way in which these concepts appear — and don’t appear — in curriculum materials.

    In most of the books, there was little that touched on race, never mind an academic framework like critical race theory.

    But many of the textbooks included social-emotional learning content, a practice with roots in psychological research that tries to help students develop mind-sets that can support academic success.

    The image below, from marketing materials provided by the company Big Ideas Learning — whose elementary textbooks Florida rejected — features one common way teachers are trained to think about social-emotional learning.

    The circular diagram names the five core skills students should develop: self-awareness, self-management, responsible decision-making, social awareness and relationship building. This framework was developed by CASEL, an education nonprofit.

    Until recently, the idea of building social-emotional skills was a fairly uncontroversial one in American education. Research suggests that students with these skills earn higher test scores.

    But right-wing activists like Chris Rufo, senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, have sought to tie social-emotional learning to the broader debate over the teaching of race, gender and sexuality in classrooms.

    In a March interview conducted over email, Mr. Rufo stated that while social-emotional learning sounds “positive and uncontroversial” in theory, “in practice, SEL serves as a delivery mechanism for radical pedagogies such as critical race theory and gender deconstructionism.”

    “The intention of SEL,” he continued, “is to soften children at an emotional level, reinterpret their normative behavior as an expression of ‘repression,’ ‘whiteness,’ or ‘internalized racism,’ and then rewire their behavior according to the dictates of left-wing ideology.”...............

     

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