What happens to the Republican Party now? (4 Viewers)

The greater issue is that someone has chosen to rely on Fox and a conservative radio station to give them 'facts.' I think this is how people like Trump come to power in the first place.

SaulGoodmanEsq said:

The greater issue is that someone has chosen to rely on Fox and a conservative radio station to give them 'facts.' I think this is how people like Trump come to power in the first place.

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Did you read my post that states I listen to mildly left leaning (CBS) News Radio 88 and additionally (as I did tonight) sometimes catch World News Tonight with David Muir?
I think can discern which is "fact", i.e. the hard news reporting and which is not. For example, I no longer have an interest in watching Sean Hannity or Laura Ingraham. I'll just watch them if there is breaking news and they are just hosting a show that is mostly focused on the breaking story rather than their opinions or talking points.

I'm just wondering how can a person be this clueless...

Textbook false equivalency. But the far right is so brainwashed they don't see the difference.

zztop said:

I'm just wondering how can a person be this clueless...

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I grew up in her district. It's embarrassing despite the fact that I've not been there for 30 years. When I get on the phone with cousins who still are there I tease them about her.

It would help if Tom McClintock the carpet bagger weren't my rep now, he's almost as bad.

So I’m half surprised Boebert didn’t yell out “Let’s go Brandon!” last night

Optimus Prime said:

So I’m half surprised Boebert didn’t yell out “Let’s go Brandon!” last night

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Close, both she marjorie greene taylor did heckle him last night. I am sure their base just ate that up though. How they 'owned' him, or something.

Optimus Prime said:

So I’m half surprised Boebert didn’t yell out “Let’s go Brandon!” last night

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She did do almost that.

On the streaming video I was watching they turned the camera on her for a few seconds. A person didn't need to be a lip reader to know that she was silently mouthing the words F U over and over like it was a mantra.

It was intentional that she was mouthing them in a way to make to make it easy to read.

zztop said:

Close, both she marjorie greene taylor did heckle him last night. I am sure their base just ate that up though. How they 'owned' him, or something.

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I did read about that, that's what I meant, thought she might as well go all the way

If she went the Brandon route I'm sure their base would have erected a statue

SamAndreas said:

She did do almost that.

On the streaming video I was watching they turned the camera on her for a few seconds. A person didn't need to be a lip reader to know that she was silently mouthing the words F U over and over like it was a mantra.

It was intentional that she was mouthing them in a way to make to make it easy to read.

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Ironic, given that she probably can't...

zztop said:

Close, both she marjorie greene taylor did heckle him last night. I am sure their base just ate that up though. How they 'owned' him, or something.

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Classless clowns gonna clown...

^ honestly I'd expect nothing less from a guy that has made millions from coal

There is a serious ethical rot at the core of the Republican Party due to Trump and Haley is like Exhibit A:

I keep reading conflicting accounts on how much power, sway and influence Trump has in the Republican Party today

Ranging from more than ever to waning rapidly
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How has Donald Trump changed since he first ran for office in 2016?


He knows now that he can win. He feels more confident in his ability to serve in the position, reducing the likelihood that he would appoint more-mainstream officials to serve in the White House.

He can similarly feel confident that Republican lawmakers will acquiesce to his requests, meaning that Cabinet nominations might face relatively little friction in a Republican-controlled Senate.

Not to mention, of course, that he understands that the threat of impeachment is impotent, given the security offered by Republican senators and the fact that he’s gone through it multiple times before.

He knows that the country’s memory is short and that for all of the concerns expressed by observers and voters from 2017 through 2020, he got more support in 2020 than he had four years before.

More important is how he hasn’t changed.

Now, as then, he embraces or excuses political violence — even in the extreme manifestation shown on Jan. 6, 2021.

He still embraces authoritarians, telling a group of Republican donors over the weekend that he admired the “toughness” of North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un.

His first response to Russia’s incursion into Ukraine was to praise Russian President Vladimir Putin for his “genius” and “savvy.” He still sees American power as an extension of his own power, a tendency telegraphed on the campaign trail and manifested with his efforts to pressure Ukraine in 2019.

Even given the events of the past two weeks, Trump sees international alliances as a frustration of his will, disparaging NATO as toothless.

A lesson that has been reinforced for Trump repeatedly since he left office is that the standards that supposedly constrain bad actors aren’t constraints at all.

Trump has actively and energetically undermined confidence in the 2020 election results, building on years of his own effort and decades of his party’s.

But he’s gotten more brazen as it’s become clear that the violence that rhetoric spurred at the Capitol didn’t actually do any political damage. He has defended the rioters and downplayed the riot. He’s attacked those who oppose his dishonest claims about fraud……

All of this paints an unsettling picture: A leader interested in power and uninterested in constraints. One who’s willing to seize or hold power by undermining confidence in elections as he praises foreign leaders who’ve done so explicitly.

A leader who has learned that his opponents can’t impose any limits and that his allies won’t endorse any.
In fact, his allies in the Republican Party appear to have reverted to the position they took toward his potential candidacy back in spring 2016: How bad could it be?……

one of Trump’s political pardons runs afoul of the law again, good:

Yet another article wondering “is this the tipping point?”

The answer is no it isn’t
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For years, I’ve been hoping that some outrage would finally turn the Republican Party against Donald Trump, and for years, I’ve been bitterly disappointed.

Trump survived describing Mexican immigrants as “criminals, drug dealers, rapists” … insulting John McCain for being a POW … mocking a disabled reporter … bragging about grabbing women by their private parts … calling neo-Nazis “very fine people” … arguably obstructing justice to block a probe of his campaign dealings with Russia … fawning over vicious dictators … lying nonstop … engaging in personal vituperation … calling the media “the enemy of the people” … separating immigrant children from their parents … mismanaging the covid-19 pandemic … trying to extort Ukraine into helping him politically … refusing to accept his election defeat … inciting a mob attack on the U.S. Capitol … and too many other scandals to list.


Will the Republican Party finally come to its senses now that one of Trump’s favorite dictators is waging a cruel war of aggression against Ukraine?

Hope springs eternal. The Republican Accountability Project — a Never Trump conservative group — has been airing a hard-hitting commercial on Fox “News” Channel that juxtaposes Trump’s sickening praise for Vladimir Putin’s dismemberment of Ukraine (“genius,” “smart,” “savvy”) with heartbreaking pictures of the suffering being inflicted by the Russian military.

Trump backtracked a bit last week; he called the invasion a “holocaust” but still would not denounce his pal Putin.
Even Trump’s vice president, Mike Pence, took a veiled swipe at Trump, saying, “There is no room in this party for apologists for Putin,” and former national security adviser John Bolton said Trump would have pulled out of NATO in a second term.

Republican leaders are now in a competition to see who can sound tougher on Russia.
Even rank-and-file Republicans, who might be expected to listen to the siren song of Putin apologists such as Tucker Carlson, have turned hawkish on Russia.

In one recent poll, only 4 percent of Republicans say Putin’s claims on Ukraine are justified, and only 6 percent have a positive view of Putin. There is, in fact, almost no partisan difference in outlook toward Russia. Americans from both parties say the United States should stop buying Russian oil and impose a no-fly zone over Ukraine.

So Republicans should be turning against Putin’s No. 1 American apologist, right? They should, but they likely won’t.


A Yahoo News poll provides disturbing evidence of the toxic impact of partisanship on Republican views.

Only 3 percent of those who voted for Trump in 2020 say President Biden is “doing a better job leading his country” than Putin is. Nearly half of Trump voters — 47 percent — say Putin is doing a better job than Biden even while the Russian economy is collapsing.

In the same survey, 82 percent of Republicans expressed a favorable view of Trump. A CBS News poll last month found that 69 percent of Republicans want Trump to run again, and I doubt those numbers will change much a month from now……..