Capitol Riot arrests (3 Viewers)

Bigdaddysaints · Jan 18, 2021

Figured we should start a separate thread on the arrests and those involved in the storming of the Capitol. I know it has been talked about in the other thread a lot, but for the ones who just want to follow the ones arrested and/or charged, this will be an easier way to see updates on the investigations.

Link below is everyone who has been arrested. But we know there will be more.

Capitol Breach Cases

www.justice.gov

The website seems to be updated with new information daily.

The ones who are getting the most air time:

Notable Arrests After the Riot at the Capitol (Published 2021)

Dozens have been charged since a mob of Trump supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6.

www.nytimes.com

Jake Angeli

Adam Johnson

Richard Barnett

Kevin Seefried

Eric Gavelek Munchel

Larry R. Brock
Lisa Eisenhart
Robert Keith Packer
Klete Keller
Aaron Mostofsky
Anthime Joseph Gionet
Peter Francis Stager
Christine Priola

CoolBrees · Jan 27, 2021

This isn’t technically an arrest from the failed insurrection. But this is close and it is Proud Boys. Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio was a big tough guy who stormed the capital and was going to take back America. No just kidding this loser was already in jail for burning a BLM flag. Which now is hilarious because he a snitch. For years and years.

the first thing my mind went to is that there are a whole lot of nervous racists right now.

the second is if Vegas is going to have odds on his life expectancy.

Exclusive: Proud Boys leader was ‘prolific’ informer for law enforcement

Enrique Tarrio, the leader of the Proud Boys extremist group, has a past as an informer for federal and local law enforcement, repeatedly working undercover for investigators after he was arrested in 2012, according to a former prosecutor and a transcript of a 2014 federal...

www.reuters.com

B4YOU · Jan 27, 2021

Roofgardener said:
And yet, the news outlets didn't scream about Trump causing "an impediment to the orderly conduct of government"

They screamed "Insurrection" ?

News outlets are overly generous to Trump with their language. They are calling a failed coup d’etat an insurrection so as not to lay blame on Trump or the other politicians who spoke at the rally or supported the lie of a stolen election. It’s the same thing they did with saying “misrepresented the truth” instead of “lying”. Mainstream media tries to appeal to the broadest audience possible so extremist behavior is presented as moderately as possible to offend the least amount of people.

What word would you use to label Jan 6th?

The moose · Jan 27, 2021

CoolBrees said:
This isn’t technically an arrest from the failed insurrection. But this is close and it is Proud Boys. Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio was a big tough guy who stormed the capital and was going to take back America. No just kidding this loser was already in jail for burning a BLM flag. Which now is hilarious because he a snitch. For years and years.

the first thing my mind went to is that there are a whole lot of nervous racists right now.

the second is if Vegas is going to have odds on his life expectancy.

Exclusive: Proud Boys leader was ‘prolific’ informer for law enforcement
Enrique Tarrio, the leader of the Proud Boys extremist group, has a past as an informer for federal and local law enforcement, repeatedly working undercover for investigators after he was arrested in 2012, according to a former prosecutor and a transcript of a 2014 federal...
www.reuters.com

So ya really think?

Or did they pick up their informant before anything happened ?

Roofgardener · Jan 28, 2021

B4YOU said:
News outlets are overly generous to Trump with their language. They are calling a failed coup d’etat an insurrection so as not to lay blame on Trump or the other politicians who spoke at the rally or supported the lie of a stolen election. It’s the same thing they did with saying “misrepresented the truth” instead of “lying”. Mainstream media tries to appeal to the broadest audience possible so extremist behavior is presented as moderately as possible to offend the least amount of people.

What word would you use to label Jan 6th?

ROFL. A coup d'etat ?
A coup d'etat is the removal of an existing government from power, usually through violent means.

How - precisely and exactly - did a bunch of idiots wandering around the capital building constitute an organised removal of the government from power, to be replaced by a new revolutionary government ?

And since when did 'News outlets' suddenly become 'overly generous to Trump' ? Quite the opposite, I would have said ?

As for 'how would I describe it' ? Well, in the words of CNN, it was a 'mostly peaceful, but fiery, protest'

You can call it an insurrection if you want, but only if you call the riots in the US cities over the previous years insurrections.

bdb13 · Jan 28, 2021

Roofgardener said:
You can call it an insurrection if you want, but only if you call the riots in the US cities over the previous years insurrections.

That's ridiculous and doesn't even deserve the time effort nor effort of an explanatory response.

Lol, there's no point in reasoning with or entertaining absolute inane nonsense.

Roofgardener · Jan 28, 2021

Brandon13 said:
That's ridiculous and doesn't even deserve the time effort nor effort of an explanatory response.

Lol, there's no point in reasoning with or entertaining absolute inane nonsense.

You seem very sensitive about this issue ?
What - exactly - concerns you about the equivelance ?

Nebaghead · Jan 28, 2021

Roofgardener said:
You seem very sensitive about this issue ?
What - exactly - concerns you about the equivelance ?

Protest that are riots aren’t insurrections.
A protest that turns into a riot then intentionally occupies a building facilitating the government process of which they are protesting with a goal of stopping it would be an insurrection. Whether or not it has the ability to be successful doesn’t qualify it. The action is insurrection, reality that it wasn’t going to be successful doesn’t matter.

If you attempt to shoot someone and don’t succeed it is still attempted murder not illegal discharge of a firearm.

Roofgardener · Jan 28, 2021

Nebaghead said:
Protest that are riots aren’t insurrections.
A protest that turns into a riot then intentionally occupies a building facilitating the government process of which they are protesting with a goal of stopping it would be an insurrection. Whether or not it has the ability to be successful doesn’t qualify it. The action is insurrection, reality that it wasn’t going to be successful doesn’t matter.

If you attempt to shoot someone and don’t succeed it is still attempted murder not illegal discharge of a firearm.

Umm.. I think you are mistaken ?
If you are 'protesting', then the chances are that you are protesting against authority.
If the protest turns into a riot, then it is a violent protest against authority.
That is the definition of insurrection.

bdb13 · Jan 28, 2021

Roofgardener said:
You seem very sensitive about this issue ?
What - exactly - concerns you about the equivelance ?

I see it more or less as a deliberate attempt to conflate (or deflate) the seriousness of the events (and background to them) that occurred at the Capitol with other violence and riots that have occurred in this country.

I think it's very dangerous to downplay the seriousness of what occurred at the Capitol and that's probably why I come off as sensitive about it to someone who doesn't fully appreciate the seriousness of what occurred at the Capitol.

coldseat · Jan 28, 2021

Roofgardener said:
Umm.. I think you are mistaken ?
If you are 'protesting', then the chances are that you are protesting against authority.
If the protest turns into a riot, then it is a violent protest against authority.
That is the definition of insurrection.

These response are just ridiculous. It doesn't seem like you understand democracy at all.

Roofgardener · Jan 28, 2021

Brandon13 said:
I see it more or less as a deliberate attempt to conflate (or deflate) the seriousness of the events (and background to them) that occurred at the Capitol with other violence and riots that have occurred in this country.

I think it's very dangerous to downplay the seriousness of what occurred at the Capitol and that's probably why I come off as sensitive about it to someone who doesn't fully appreciate the seriousness of what occurred at the Capitol.

I appreciate the political differences between the insurrectins in Portland and Seattle, and the Insurrection at the Capitol. However, they should be treated as the same IN LAW. Justice should be blind.

Booker · Jan 28, 2021

So was it a violent attempt to alter the existing government? They stormed the capitol in an attempt to unlawfully keep Trump in power and to prevent Biden's lawful elevation to office. Violence? Check. Attempting alter the government? Check.

If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...

Roofgardener · Jan 28, 2021

Booker said:
So was it a violent attempt to alter the existing government? They stormed the capitol in an attempt to unlawfully keep Trump in power and to prevent Biden's lawful elevation to office. Violence? Check. Attempting alter the government? Check.

If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...

And how - precisely - where they going to OVERTHROW the government ? The term overthrow implies replacing it with something else. How exactly would you imagine that rabble doing THAT ?

Your walking talking duck would be in possession of a building. Until the government forces (police, national guard etc) evicted it. The whole notion of this being a coup d'etat is Quackers !

Roofgardener · Jan 28, 2021

coldseat said:
These response are just ridiculous. It doesn't seem like you understand democracy at all.

Well, you (and you are not alone) don't seem to understand the word 'insurrection' ?

Dunno.. is the definition different between the USA and the UK ?

bdb13 · Jan 28, 2021

Roofgardener said:
I appreciate the political differences between the insurrectins in Portland and Seattle, and the Insurrection at the Capitol. However, they should be treated as the same IN LAW. Justice should be blind.

? This is a different point than what I responded to from you originally. You broadly mentioned 'US violence in previous years' or something in the previous post (which, in particular, is largely part of why I took exception to your post) but now you're being more specific - as far as Portland and Seattle and such places I'll go ahead and admit to not wading through the propaganda war and figuring out what's what.. so sure there may very well be some legit.. insurrectionist.. shirt going on out there too, and if so I'm all for arresting and charging those people with what's appropriate based upon their actions (there might be an argument to be made that there hasn't been enough 'law & order' or whatever in some of those areas, but I think that's a distinct argument to have from any of this).

But you are really going to have to show me some shirt from Portland, Seattle or wherever for any of it to approach the same level of danger to the country as was what we witnessed at the Capitol on January 6th, and I know you can't possibly do that... .. which is really my overarching point, that everything ain't always the same as everything else.

coldseat · Jan 28, 2021

Roofgardener said:
Well, you (and you are not alone) don't seem to understand the word 'insurrection' ?

Dunno.. is the definition different between the USA and the UK ?

No. The difference is between reality and right-wing crazy. I'll let you figure out what side you're on.

Roofgardener · Jan 28, 2021

Brandon13 said:
? This is a different point than what I responded to from you originally. You broadly mentioned 'US violence in previous years' or something in the previous post (which, in particular, is largely part of why I took exception to your post) but now you're being more specific - as far as Portland and Seattle and such places I'll go ahead and admit to not wading through the propaganda war and figuring out what's what.. so sure there may very well be some legit.. insurrectionist.. shirt going on out there too, and if so I'm all for arresting and charging those people with what's appropriate based upon their actions (there might be an argument to be made that there hasn't been enough 'law & order' or whatever in some of those areas, but I think that's a distinct argument to have from any of this).

But you are really going to have to show me some shirt from Portland, Seattle or wherever for any of it to approach the same level of danger to the country as was what we witnessed at the Capitol on January 6th, and I know you can't possibly do that... .. which is really my overarching point, that everything ain't always the same as everything else.

Fair enough. In that case, I'm going to have to ask you a question.

WHAT 'danger to the country' was there in the Capital insurrection ?
Think about it ... I'm not being arch or sardonic. What was the "danger to the Nation", given that the SS and capital police could keep the legislators from physical harm ?

Saint by the Bay · Jan 28, 2021

I can't believe y'all are actually playing this reindeer game.

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