The Voting Thread (Procedures, Turnout, Legal Challenges)(Update: Trump to file suit in PA, MI, WI, AZ, NV, GA) (2 Viewers)

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    Lapaz

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    There is a lot of push-back from Trump on voting by mail, but most states allow it, and 1/3 allow it without any excuse. His rationale is that it will lead to vast fraud, but of course that isn't his real reason. His real reason is that he thinks it will be worse for conservatives, but studies have shown that states that have instituted much broader voting by mail haven't had any statistical changes in party voting.



    Although, normally voting by mail doesn't affect party votes, I bet it might this year if we have another resurgence of Covid, because I think the right is much more apt to discount the virus than the left. I know that is why Trump is against it.

    Whether you're left or right wing, expanding mail in votes is the right thing to do to reduce the likelihood of spreading the virus, to expand voter participation, and to make it easier for those that do show up to stay distant. It will also allow any people with susceptibilities to remain safer. I think voting by mail could be made extremely secure by having people vote using traditional postal mail, coupled with requiring a confirmation either by phone, email or text. If done by phone, then voters can provide confirmation that can include confirming their form number. If done by email or text, it can include a picture of their form, and then confirmation that that was their form. Rather than staffers individually calling people, this can be automated by having voters call the number, text the number, or email the address provided to them on their form. A website can even be created with a database of those that have voted, and perhaps a link to allow people to confirm their vote was correctly registered. For people without computers, a site can include a means to access the database over the phone with some confirmation information. These types of systems are used extensively by banks and other sites that need security, so I think they are mature enough to use. We could even use such a site for people to confirm their vote on the day of the election.
     
    They are brazenly and openly using the federal courts to try to steal an election after a lifetime of screaming about "activist judges" and "States' rights!!!" And when people come out to riot about it they will use the police state to put those people down. They've been working toward this for decades and we're about to see if it will work.
     
    If he throws out those votes it's flat out fascism. There's no other word for that and the Minnesota ruling that invalidates the instructional text on ballots that people have already received.

    Totally agree. At least Minnesota is reserving their right to appeal the ruling. I don't think that's a done deal yet. I just think they're holding off because they feel the voice of the people will be carried out anyway.

    In Texas, however, that's just forked up. After a bench that is completely Republican (one dissent) turned them away in their efforts, they're like "fork y'all. Next!!!"
     
    After the Texas GOP lost on the issue of whether curbside voting is legal in the Texas Supreme Court, they just re-filed the same challenge instead in federal court, where they might have a friendlier road (through a GOP-appointed district court judge, the GOP-slanted U.S. Fifth Circuit, and the now GOP-owned U.S. Supreme Court).



    Just casually looking to throw out 100,000 likely Democratic votes, nothing to see here!


    some good news about this:

     
    Is this type of stuff really going on in Texas...?

    “In my opinion, it is ill-advised for our party officials to have a major public confrontation with our elected Republicans, particularly this close to an election,” Hollern said.

    “It is not good.”

    West, a one-term Florida congressman and former leader of a failed Dallas think tank, was elected by Republican convention delegates who mostly never face voters outside their own precincts. His work is oveseen by the State Republican Executive Committee, made up of one man and one woman from each state Senate district.

    When frustrated SREC members tried to meet clumsily over Zoom in July as the pandemic was getting worse, a committeeman from Montgomery County waved a bottle of Skrewball Peanut Butter Whiskey and shouted “Don’t drink the Kool-Aid!”

    Committeeman Walter West (no relation to the party chairman) said meeting over Zoom was “exactly what the Democrats would use against us when the time comes in November, or whenever they want another COVID-19 fix.” He called then-party Chairman James Dickey of Austin, a bookish insurance executive, a “fraud.”

     
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    What would have happened if BLM had shut down a highway?


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    If it wasn't in Orleans Parish, they'd be assaulted with a full range of less than lethal munitions. * If they were lucky...
     
    Well, this is going on out there as well:


    A legal cloud hanging over nearly 127,000 votes already cast in Harris County was at least temporarily lifted Sunday when the Texas Supreme Court rejected a request by several conservative Republican activists and candidates to preemptively throw out early balloting from drive-thru polling sites in the state's most populous, and largely Democratic, county.
    The all-Republican court denied the request without an order or opinion, as justices did last month in a similar lawsuit brought by some of the same plaintiffs.

    The Republican plaintiffs, however, are pursuing a similar lawsuit in federal court, hoping to get the votes thrown out by arguing that drive-thru voting violates the U.S. constitution. A hearing in that case is set for Monday morning in a Houston-based federal district court, one day before Election Day. A rejection of the votes would constitute a monumental disenfranchisement of voters — drive-thru ballots account for about 10% of all in-person ballots cast during early voting in Harris County.

    Why do republican officials hate getting citizens to vote? They close polling stations, limit early ballot dropboxes, and now they want to delete 127K votes from the record. Why?
     
    Well, this is going on out there as well:




    Why do republican officials hate getting citizens to vote? They close polling stations, limit early ballot dropboxes, and now they want to delete 127K votes from the record. Why?


    Well it is pretty simple the republican policy is not in agreement with the majority of the American public.

    The only way to fix the problem is gerrymandering and voter suppression.

    To me the most logical choice is to work together come closer to the middle so we as a nation can grow but I certainly am not a politician because of that. I use logical thinking.
     
    If Trump tries to steal the election, i think theyre gonna need a lot more than 250 guardsmen.



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    Anyone get the feeling that one of these confrontations will end in someone getting killed? :(




    Absolutely.

    Im not sure if it’ll happen before the election, since there are only like 24 hrs to go.. but after the election, unless the results are a landslide in either direction- i dont see how there isnt bloodshed in the streets.
     

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