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    Dragon said:
    If those voters would spend just as much time working to protect and support poor, abused and unwanted children after birth as they did before, I might respect them more. But they don't
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    A mid-level Louisiana Republican operative once told me he couldn't understand why the poor/lower middle class so often sided with the GOP in the state. He recognized the social/religious issues but basically said those people were voting against their own economic self-interests.
     
    MT15 said:
    RGB response. Bank on it. I see it as a net negative for Trump, can’t agree with chuck or Jim Everett.
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    I agree and I think it's because people are relying on previously true assumptions that are no longer true.

    I think the secret voters in this election that none of the polls are accurately accounting for is a record shattering voter turnout of 30 and younger voters. I think it will lead to unexpected results in the presidential and all down ballot races.
     
    LA - L.A. said:
    I agree and I think it's because people are relying on previously true assumptions that are no longer true.

    I think the secret voters in this election that none of the polls are accurately accounting for is a record shattering voter turnout of 30 and younger voters. I think it will lead to unexpected results in the presidential and all down ballot races.
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    Could be right. Makes sense. Perhaps this year is truly different with all that is going on and the manner in which young Americans have engaged with it but . . . until this chart changes, you have to presume it isn't going to.

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    superchuck500 said:
    Could be right. Makes sense. Perhaps this year is truly different with all that is going on and the manner in which young Americans have engaged with it but . . . until this chart changes, you have to presume it isn't going to.

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    I understand that and I wasn't faulting anyone for relying on previous trends and dynamics for their assumptions.

    Social media has conditioned those 30 and younger to be voting motivated. Every social media platform has some system of voicing one's opinion about other posts and users through some version of a like/dislike system. That's voting and it's huge part of the behavior and appeal of social media.

    Voting in an election is just another form of like/dislike voting. 30 and younger people have recently shown they are highly politically motivated. Combine that with the social media behavioral conditioning toward voting and I think we see a historical turnout from those 30 and under.

    It's just what I think and nothing near a prediction.
     
    SaulGoodmanEsq said:
    A mid-level Louisiana Republican operative once told me he couldn't understand why the poor/lower middle class so often sided with the GOP in the state. He recognized the social/religious issues but basically said those people were voting against their own economic self-interests.
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    The best explanation I've heard on this is what Yale history prof. Timothy Snyder describes as "sadopopulism," where a party inflicts pain on its own supporters and blames "enemies" for said pain (liberals, non-whites, etc.). It's fascinating:


    This is 100% true: a paralegal I knew needed a neck surgery after a car accident, and actually bought herself an ACA policy with her settlement money to pay for the surgery, which she was able to do despite her pre-existing condition. Then she voted for Trump while admitting to me that he would actively work to eliminate coverage for pre-existing conditions, and that she could not otherwise afford coverage, and her best explanation was that she didn't like that the Obama administration handed out brand new Iphones to everyone that was getting welfare.
     
    TaylorB said:
    The best explanation I've heard on this is what Yale history prof. Timothy Snyder describes as "sadopopulism," where a party inflicts pain on its own supporters and blames "enemies" for said pain (liberals, non-whites, etc.). It's fascinating:


    This is 100% true: a paralegal I knew needed a neck surgery after a car accident, and actually bought herself an ACA policy with her settlement money to pay for the surgery, which she was able to do despite her pre-existing condition. Then she voted for Trump while admitting to me that he would actively work to eliminate coverage for pre-existing conditions, and that she could not otherwise afford coverage, and her best explanation was that she didn't like that the Obama administration handed out brand new Iphones to everyone that was getting welfare.
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    Never underestimate the power of spite.
     
    LA - L.A. said:
    I understand that and I wasn't faulting anyone for relying on previous trends and dynamics for their assumptions.

    Social media has conditioned those 30 and younger to be voting motivated. Every social media platform has some system of voicing one's opinion about other posts and users through some version of a like/dislike system. That's voting and it's huge part of the behavior and appeal of social media.

    Voting in an election is just another form of like/dislike voting. 30 and younger people have recently shown they are highly politically motivated. Combine that with the social media behavioral conditioning toward voting and I think we see a historical turnout from those 30 and under.

    It's just what I think and nothing near a prediction.
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    Yeah I wasn’t saying I disagreed - it makes sense. I’m just skeptical until I see it. If young Americans could vote on their computer or phone, young turnout would be huge. Are they gonna wait in line for an hour or three? I don’t know.
     
    superchuck500 said:
    Yeah I wasn’t saying I disagreed - it makes sense. I’m just skeptical until I see it. If young Americans could vote on their computer or phone, young turnout would be huge. Are they gonna wait in line for an hour or three? I don’t know.
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    I think more of them will vote by mail and track their ballots online. If someone makes a viral social media challenge to see who can wait in line the longest to vote, then they'll all wait in line as long as they can to vote.
     
    zztop said:
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    So I saw this today. Hopefully that translates into votes
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    It'll be too late, of course. The seat will already be filled, but yeah, maybe some voters will be torqued enough to pull the lever for Biden.
     
    If the latest polls hold, Tillis will not be re-elected. For the first time Harrison has pulled ahead of Graham, although still within the margin of error. However, Harrison has been gaining ground steadily, and this looks like a trend.

    With Barrett being the nominee, and somewhat surprising polls that a solid majority of people think the seat shouldn’t be filled until after the inauguration, including 50% of Republicans (!) I think Mitch pushing this nomination through so quickly is being seen as a solely political power play rather than what’s best for the country.

    This seems to be hurting Republicans. And the Democrats‘ decision to focus on Barrett’s opposition to the ACA, with its protection for pre-existing conditions, is the right way to erode support for this nomination.
     
    MT15 said:
    If the latest polls hold, Tillis will not be re-elected. For the first time Harrison has pulled ahead of Graham, although still within the margin of error. However, Harrison has been gaining ground steadily, and this looks like a trend.
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    I've never donated to so many different state Senatorial candidates ever.

    MT15 said:
    With Barrett being the nominee, and somewhat surprising polls that a solid majority of people think the seat shouldn’t be filled until after the inauguration, including 50% of Republicans (!) I think Mitch pushing this nomination through so quickly is being seen as a solely political power play rather than what’s best for the country.

    This seems to be hurting Republicans. And the Democrats‘ decision to focus on Barrett’s opposition to the ACA, with its protection for pre-existing conditions, is the right way to erode support for this nomination.
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    what I find interesting is that the legions of GOP and Trump supporters were so quick to proclaim the "Riots are hurting Biden!" with no proof are silent on this one. I have no idea what this will mean weeks from now, but I think the rush to fill along with the decision on ACA in peril - and the coverage for tens of millions (and how many more millions with COVID diagnoses as pre-existing conditions) - that this could really impact the election.
     
    Some pretty shocking polls recently. Aside from Harrison, Al Gross (Independent that would caucus with Democrats) is neck-and-neck with GOP incumbent Dan Sullivan in Alaska. In the Georgia special election, one poll shows Raphael Warnock in the lead and that he would win in a runoff:



    I have a hard time believing this but who knows?
     
    zztop said:
    Looks like he brought his own plexiglass as protection from Lindsey. From what I read LG had prolonged exposure with someone that tested positive. But instead of quarantining himself...

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    I’m sure that was a little precaution and a lot of theater but it works - and there’s nothing Lindsey can say about it.
     

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