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    The football board had the very useful Daily Trump Tracker thread, which was a good place to briefly discuss the latest ridiculous thing that might have ended 97% of prior Presidential administrations even if it didn't necessarily justify an entire thread devoted to it in 2017-2019 (because of the sheer volume of these things). Since I don't see anything like that here already, I'll add one myself.
     
    Hmmm, you voted for Trump you say?

    I was in a hurry when I posted that, should have included *would’ve. Wife voted, for Trump, I did not vote as I thought he had no shot.
    My apologies.
    And yes I will be voting for him this November.
     
    I voted for him, and will again, and I admit what he said was absolutely incredibly stupid. I don’t think he was being facetious either.
    Ok, I’ve got a serious question for you.

    You agree that what he said was incredibly stupid.

    how can you support a man who says something incredibly stupid, and when asked about it refuses to apologize and simply says “I was being sarcastic?”
     
    Ok, I’ve got a serious question for you.

    You agree that what he said was incredibly stupid.

    how can you support a man who says something incredibly stupid, and when asked about it refuses to apologize and simply says “I was being sarcastic?”

    I think he’s a terrible speaker, and would not want to be around him. He’s petulant, tweets way too much, thin skinned etc. However, I do like many of his actions, policies.

    As I’ve been chastised before for saying this tho, I believe he’s by far the lesser of the evils. In general I’m no fan of any high level politician. Another term I’ve used that has been mocked is elites. Which I believe they all are, and don’t really care about the common man.

    I detest Hillary for a plethora of reasons, Biden has dementia imo and is a puppet to China, I also think he’s a pervert, and I don’t believe in socialism...so Bernie would have been out for me too, therefore I’m left with the Donald.
     
    I think he’s a terrible speaker, and would not want to be around him. He’s petulant, tweets way too much, thin skinned etc. However, I do like many of his actions, policies.

    As I’ve been chastised before for saying this tho, I believe he’s by far the lesser of the evils. In general I’m no fan of any high level politician. Another term I’ve used that has been mocked is elites. Which I believe they all are, and don’t really care about the common man.

    I detest Hillary for a plethora of reasons, Biden has dementia imo and is a puppet to China, I also think he’s a pervert, and I don’t believe in socialism...so Bernie would have been out for me too, therefore I’m left with the Donald.

    You don’t think Trump is a pervert? You don’t think Trump has dementia?
     
    I think he’s a terrible speaker, and would not want to be around him. He’s petulant, tweets way too much, thin skinned etc. However, I do like many of his actions, policies.

    As I’ve been chastised before for saying this tho, I believe he’s by far the lesser of the evils. In general I’m no fan of any high level politician. Another term I’ve used that has been mocked is elites. Which I believe they all are, and don’t really care about the common man.

    I detest Hillary for a plethora of reasons, Biden has dementia imo and is a puppet to China, I also think he’s a pervert, and I don’t believe in socialism...so Bernie would have been out for me too, therefore I’m left with the Donald.


    I don't understand how you don't see Donald in bed with China?

    Donald's flagship building was refinanced by China's bank! To the tune of 221 million bucks! Google it! A quarter of a billion!

    So does that change a thing?

    The pervert thing is just plain laughable. I don't get how a dude that raw Dawgs a porn star and pays her off and a dude is in jail for it get a pervert pass from you. The dude is an absolute scum bag when it comes to how he has treated women. In fact the whole me too movement is because of him you could say.

    Other scumbags are paying dearly because of the people that did not hold this scumbag accountable.

    So what else ya got?
     
    I do think Trump is a sexist, and doesn’t carry himself well or show much tact. I do not think he has dementia.

    all this statement tells me is that you are holding Trump to a much lower standard than you apparently hold any other politician. It’s not logical, but you do you.
     
    all this statement tells me is that you are holding Trump to a much lower standard than you apparently hold any other politician. It’s not logical, but you do you.

    If that’s what it tells you, then so be it.
    Your sentiment is reciprocated.
     
    I don't understand how you don't see Donald in bed with China?

    Donald's flagship building was refinanced by China's bank! To the tune of 221 million bucks! Google it! A quarter of a billion!

    So does that change a thing?

    The pervert thing is just plain laughable. I don't get how a dude that raw Dawgs a porn star and pays her off and a dude is in jail for it get a pervert pass from you. The dude is an absolute scum bag when it comes to how he has treated women. In fact the whole me too movement is because of him you could say.

    Other scumbags are paying dearly because of the people that did not hold this scumbag accountable.

    So what else ya got?
    I’m going to delve into that China part a bit, good food for thought.
    The raw dogging a porn star does nothing to move the needle for me. I do think Trump is a perv, just not as bad a perv as Joe, which I also think Joe has full blown dementia. So I could not in good faith vote for Joe. I think all of them are crooked, but it’s always the lesser of evils for me.
     
    You were already set on voting for him in 2018, saying how you were excited to vote for him in 2020 after not doing so in 2016. This is again a situation where your position stretches credibility.


    Anyways...

    The National Republican Senatorial Committee has sent campaigns a detailed, 57-page memo authored by a top Republican strategist advising GOP candidates to address the coronavirus crisis by aggressively attacking China.
    The memo includes advice on everything from how to tie Democratic candidates to the Chinese government to how to deal with accusations of racism. It stresses three main lines of assault: That China caused the virus “by covering it up,” that Democrats are “soft on China,” and that Republicans will “push for sanctions on China for its role in spreading this pandemic.”
    Coronavirus was a Chinese hit-and-run followed by a cover-up that cost thousands of lives,” the April 17 memo states.
    The document urges candidates to stay relentlessly on message against the country when responding to any questions about the virus. When asked whether the spread of the coronavirus is Trump’s fault, candidates are advised to respond by pivoting to China.
    “Don’t defend Trump, other than the China Travel Ban — attack China,” the memo states.

    Looks like the strategy has leaked.

    So expect a lot of blame-shifting in the next few days trying to divert from Trump’s performance and trying to stoke racist sentiment to blame China and let Trump/Republicans rebrand themselves as the victim.
     
    As your position does in my opinion Bronco. The beauty of it is that we don’t have to see eye to eye.
    Anyone that would vote for Biden knowing he’s not even close to all there, loses much credibility to me. But I feel similar to MT, just do you, I’ll do me.
     
    I think he’s a terrible speaker, and would not want to be around him. He’s petulant, tweets way too much, thin skinned etc. However, I do like many of his actions, policies.

    As I’ve been chastised before for saying this tho, I believe he’s by far the lesser of the evils. In general I’m no fan of any high level politician. Another term I’ve used that has been mocked is elites. Which I believe they all are, and don’t really care about the common man.

    I detest Hillary for a plethora of reasons, Biden has dementia imo and is a puppet to China, I also think he’s a pervert, and I don’t believe in socialism...so Bernie would have been out for me too, therefore I’m left with the Donald.

    So, you say "Biden has dementia IMO." Can you give us examples of this. And, if these examples are slips of the tongue, or verbal gaffes...I'll gladly show you some video of the guy you are supporting, which is at least equal evidence of dementia.
     
    The pervert thing is just plain laughable. I don't get how a dude that raw Dawgs a porn star and pays her off and a dude is in jail for it get a pervert pass from you.

    Come on man..you're better than that. You're going to type that whole sentence and not mention the fact that he did that while his current wife was having his child?
     
    I’m going to delve into that China part a bit, good food for thought.
    The raw dogging a porn star does nothing to move the needle for me. I do think Trump is a perv, just not as bad a perv as Joe, which I also think Joe has full blown dementia. So I could not in good faith vote for Joe. I think all of them are crooked, but it’s always the lesser of evils for me.


    Well get back to me after you figure out his flagship property is basically owned by the country of China until he repays the loan.

    This shirt is real. This is exactly what he was after Joe's kid for that company was China financed. How is this any different?

    I fully expect that you will come back with nonsense. Just waiting for the denial or spin you try to make it work for you.

    Like the pervert denial. That is just beautiful.
     
    As your position does in my opinion Bronco. The beauty of it is that we don’t have to see eye to eye.
    Anyone that would vote for Biden knowing he’s not even close to all there, loses much credibility to me. But I feel similar to MT, just do you, I’ll do me.
    To be quite honest, your perpetuating of him as having dementia is downright offensive as someone that has actually watched the process of dementia take hold of several family members until their death.

    Biden, like Trump, is clearly on the other side of their cognitive peak, and Biden has always had a speech impediment, but unless you are going to prove your credentials, or start demonstrating some sort of stronger case for why what you attribute to Biden doesn’t equally attribute to Mr. Maybe-we-can-inject-people-with-bleach, you are just making post-hoc rationalizations for a decision you have already made two years ago and wasting people’s time with this exercise.
     
    Short version...

    —Trump tweets about reporters getting “Noble” prizes for Russia Russia Russia, and how they should return them so the “Noble” committee can give them to good journalists.
    —People take him to take for misspelling “Nobel” and not knowing the journalists don’t get Nobel Prizes, they get Pulitzers.
    —Trump, in a live that shocked absolutely no one, said that he meant Noble prize and was being sarcastic.

     
    To be quite honest, your perpetuating of him as having dementia is downright offensive as someone that has actually watched the process of dementia take hold of several family members until their death.

    Biden, like Trump, is clearly on the other side of their cognitive peak, and Biden has always had a speech impediment, but unless you are going to prove your credentials, or start demonstrating some sort of stronger case for why what you attribute to Biden doesn’t equally attribute to Mr. Maybe-we-can-inject-people-with-bleach, you are just making post-hoc rationalizations for a decision you have already made two years ago and wasting people’s time with this exercise.
    ?
    Then that’s in your interpretation. I too have lost several family members to dementia. I don’t say it cruelly about Joe. Dementia is terrible.
    And if you can watch Joe and think he just has a stuttering issue (which I’m not referring to at all in my observations here) then I also can’t help that.



    Truly tho if you choose to be offended by something you’re misinterpreting then I can’t help that. I know my intent in what I said.

    Do you always have to be confrontational in your posts? Always make it personal?

    If I’m wasting your time then put me on ignore. Or do you want to silence me since I don’t think as you do? I want you to be able to have and share your POV no matter if I agree or not.
     
    And if you can watch Joe and think he just has a stuttering issue (which I’m not referring to at all in my observations here) then I also can’t help that.
    The request is for you to point to something specific that you think indicates he has dementia. The challenge is for you, as someone repeatedly stating their intention to support Trump in the next election, to be able to do that without everyone being able to immediately point to more egregious examples of Trump along the same lines. But if you can do that, then we have something to discuss.

    However, if you can't do that, then to be honest with yourself you should really be thinking about the fact that you can't and reconsidering your position.

    Your alternative is to just keep repeating that you think it regardless and that everyone is entitled to their opinion. Sure. But that's largely pointless as far as contributing to a discussion goes. It will also, inevitably, lead to replies addressing you personally because you've made yourself the source of the point of discussion.

    For example, if someone were to be discussing Trump, and said, "I think Trump has dementia because as you can see here - (link to Trump thinking out loud about whether injecting disinfectant is a good idea) - he's struggling with his thought processes, seems to have forgotten basic concepts like 'injecting disinfectant is bad', and is clearly just rambling incoherently," then they would have made the link the source of the point of discussion.

    Whereas someone saying, "I think Trump has dementia because that's my opinion," would be making themselves the source. There isn't any objective point provided when you do that. It's just your opinion. And that's what people are inevitably going to address.
     
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