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    Mike Pence seems to be laying the groundwork for a presidential run.
    His plan apparently is to try to tie himself to the policies that were/are popular with Republican voters....yet...
    greatly distance himself from former President Trump.
    Hmmmm.
    Good luck with that.
     
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    I think at least for me, he will be the only politician that knowingly (and quite literally) put party before family. He reportedly had both his wife and daughter with him in the Capital as it was being overrun....unbelievable really....one would think he would want to do something to the person responsible for threatening his family.....it is truly bizarre what the Republican party has become....
    I remember reading that when the Access Hollywood video leaked that his wife begged him to leave the ticket (supposedly, she's more devout than he is). But we know how that turned out.
     
    He is such a disappointment!
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    Always has been. He wasn’t a good governor, which is why he was so eager to drop out of the Governor’s race in Indiana to join Trump’s campaign when asked. He was about to lose re-election in a pretty friendly state for Republicans.
     
    I guess Pence is trying to distance himself from Trump after all.


    Trump announced plans Tuesday to hold a rally on Aug. 5 with businessman Tim Michels, whom he endorsed for governor last month. Then, on Wednesday, Pence endorsed former Lt. Gov. Rebecca Kleefisch in the race, calling her “the only candidate that will deliver a stronger and more prosperous Wisconsin.”
     
    I guess Pence is trying to distance himself from Trump after all.


    Trump announced plans Tuesday to hold a rally on Aug. 5 with businessman Tim Michels, whom he endorsed for governor last month. Then, on Wednesday, Pence endorsed former Lt. Gov. Rebecca Kleefisch in the race, calling her “the only candidate that will deliver a stronger and more prosperous Wisconsin.”
    Let's see how that plays out.
    If Lt. Gov. Rebecca K. wins...it will be because she was the better candidate...NOT because Pence endorsed her.
     
    As I recall, there isn’t any distance between Trump and Pence except for the stolen election crap. Pence hasn’t broken with Trump on anything except his pressure on Pence to steal the election. In fact, just the other day Pence said he was proud of what the Trump Administration had accomplished. 🤷‍♀️
     
    As I recall, there isn’t any distance between Trump and Pence except for the stolen election crap. Pence hasn’t broken with Trump on anything except his pressure on Pence to steal the election. In fact, just the other day Pence said he was proud of what the Trump Administration had accomplished. 🤷‍♀️
    I know. That's why I said Pence is such a disappointment(post 21).....and you agreed(post 22).
     
    Welcome back! Mike Pence has zero shot, IMO, and he shouldn’t. He isn’t qualified because other than that one day, he has zero political courage. The phrase lilly-livered comes to mind, lol.
     
    A potential nominee is going nowhere unless he embraces election deniers. It's who the GOP is nominating these days:

     
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    Pence wrote a book. It's not out yet but he is releasing some excerpts...
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    Pence wrote a book. It's not out yet but he is releasing some excerpts...
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    The title should be “Party Before Family”…..Pence exhibited some of the strangest most bizarre behavior I’ve ever witnessed….Trump put him and his family in immediate danger….I mean what would most principled decent men do in that situation? The answer is not nothing, and certainly not the early continued fealty…..
     
    The title should be “Party Before Family”…..Pence exhibited some of the strangest most bizarre behavior I’ve ever witnessed….Trump put him and his family in immediate danger….I mean what would most principled decent men do in that situation? The answer is not nothing, and certainly not the early continued fealty…..
    Thanks to your post , I've learned a new word. "Fealty". Had to google that one ;)
     
    There were servings of croissants, macarons and copies of a book entitled So Help Me God. There were reporters but it could not be described as a stampede; one front row seat was nabbed by the Guardian while others assigned to the media were eventually given to regular audience members.

    Mike Pence, the former US vice-president, walked into the auditorium at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) thinktank in Washington last week. It was the latest stop on a lengthy book tour that is ostensibly promoting his memoir while also testing the water for a presidential run in 2024.

    At event after event, in interview after interview, Pence has framed his book as a story about growing up in small town Indiana, putting his faith in Jesus Christ and marrying “the girl of my dreams”. But the 63-year-old has also struck a delicate balance when it comes to his former boss, President Donald Trump – coming both to bury Caesar and to praise him.

    Pence has repeatedly defended his decision to resist pressure from his boss to overturn the 2020 election – while stopping short of condemning Trump as a traitor who should never hold elected office again.

    Asked by the Associated Press what consequences Trump should face for the January 6 attack on the US Capitol, the former VP replied: “That’s up to the American people … And look, I’ll always be proud of the record of the Trump administration.” Asked by NBC’s Meet the Press if the president committed a criminal act in fomenting an insurrection, he answered: “Well, I don’t know if it is criminal to listen to bad advice from lawyers.”…….

    When he gets hecklers, instead of saying kick their arses like Trump would say, he says that’s the voice of freedom speaking right there, that’s why we have the first amendment, so you can yell at me if you want to. He just has his very gracious, accommodating style. I’ve known the guy for 35 years. I’ve never seen him yell once and, when you’ve been a governor or a congressman, you sure have plenty of reason to yell from time to time.”

    Michael D’Antonio, co-author of The Shadow President: The Truth About Mike Pence, agreed:“I would think that he’s also considering DeSantis who, away from his base, is a rather obnoxious guy and just as lacking civility in Trump, so maybe Pence is betting on all of this coming to a head and I don’t think it’s a bad bet.

    Everyone’s so exhausted by the meanness that, if someone can persuade the Republican party in its entirety that there’s an end coming and a return to what may have existed in 2010, they’ll go for it.”

    But he added: “The only hang up is that his profound anti-abortion and anti-choice record will make him a hard sell in the general election to suburban women and all non-evangelicals and he may be a great target for the pro-choice movement. His background is also very anti-LGBTQ in a more extreme way than Trump’s ever was and it’s on the record. He can’t run away from that.”

    Indeed, Pence could suffer the worst of both worlds. The Trump base may never forgive him for refusing to support the president’s attempted coup, as evidenced by the cries of “Hang Mike Pence!” at the Capitol and subsequent incidents of booing.

    Democrats, meanwhile, have cast him as a lapdog, a loyal and sycophantic second-in-command who defended Trump through every crisis and controversy until he finally became a reluctant “hero” on January 6.

    Antjuan Seawright, a Democratic strategist, said: “The challenge for him is to separate himself from being a certified Trumpster, even though he is trying to claim a line of separation.

    The smart candidate in the Republican primary is going to wrap him around a Trump axle every chance they get. He cannot really offer himself as an alternative because there are people who have several more layers of separation from Trump, whatever he does.”…..,

     
    There were servings of croissants, macarons and copies of a book entitled So Help Me God. There were reporters but it could not be described as a stampede; one front row seat was nabbed by the Guardian while others assigned to the media were eventually given to regular audience members.

    Mike Pence, the former US vice-president, walked into the auditorium at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) thinktank in Washington last week. It was the latest stop on a lengthy book tour that is ostensibly promoting his memoir while also testing the water for a presidential run in 2024.

    At event after event, in interview after interview, Pence has framed his book as a story about growing up in small town Indiana, putting his faith in Jesus Christ and marrying “the girl of my dreams”. But the 63-year-old has also struck a delicate balance when it comes to his former boss, President Donald Trump – coming both to bury Caesar and to praise him.

    Pence has repeatedly defended his decision to resist pressure from his boss to overturn the 2020 election – while stopping short of condemning Trump as a traitor who should never hold elected office again.

    Asked by the Associated Press what consequences Trump should face for the January 6 attack on the US Capitol, the former VP replied: “That’s up to the American people … And look, I’ll always be proud of the record of the Trump administration.” Asked by NBC’s Meet the Press if the president committed a criminal act in fomenting an insurrection, he answered: “Well, I don’t know if it is criminal to listen to bad advice from lawyers.”…….

    When he gets hecklers, instead of saying kick their arses like Trump would say, he says that’s the voice of freedom speaking right there, that’s why we have the first amendment, so you can yell at me if you want to. He just has his very gracious, accommodating style. I’ve known the guy for 35 years. I’ve never seen him yell once and, when you’ve been a governor or a congressman, you sure have plenty of reason to yell from time to time.”

    Michael D’Antonio, co-author of The Shadow President: The Truth About Mike Pence, agreed:“I would think that he’s also considering DeSantis who, away from his base, is a rather obnoxious guy and just as lacking civility in Trump, so maybe Pence is betting on all of this coming to a head and I don’t think it’s a bad bet.

    Everyone’s so exhausted by the meanness that, if someone can persuade the Republican party in its entirety that there’s an end coming and a return to what may have existed in 2010, they’ll go for it.”

    But he added: “The only hang up is that his profound anti-abortion and anti-choice record will make him a hard sell in the general election to suburban women and all non-evangelicals and he may be a great target for the pro-choice movement. His background is also very anti-LGBTQ in a more extreme way than Trump’s ever was and it’s on the record. He can’t run away from that.”

    Indeed, Pence could suffer the worst of both worlds. The Trump base may never forgive him for refusing to support the president’s attempted coup, as evidenced by the cries of “Hang Mike Pence!” at the Capitol and subsequent incidents of booing.

    Democrats, meanwhile, have cast him as a lapdog, a loyal and sycophantic second-in-command who defended Trump through every crisis and controversy until he finally became a reluctant “hero” on January 6.

    Antjuan Seawright, a Democratic strategist, said: “The challenge for him is to separate himself from being a certified Trumpster, even though he is trying to claim a line of separation.

    The smart candidate in the Republican primary is going to wrap him around a Trump axle every chance they get. He cannot really offer himself as an alternative because there are people who have several more layers of separation from Trump, whatever he does.”…..,


    Mike Pence is one of the most bizarre individuals ever IMO.....Party over family, maybe he just wants to ignore the fact the not just him but his family with him in the Capital that day were in imminent danger.....because of Trump.....it's almost unconscionable to me, if I were him I would want to rip Trumps head off.....
     
    I’m of the belief that Pence doesn’t have a political home. Even though he‘s not dangerously mentally ill like Trump, he’s too extreme to win in the general. And the hard right of his party, which is a majority of what’s left of the R party, will never forgive him for not stealing the election in 2020.
     

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