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    I figured we needed a thread specifically about the media.

    There was a very big correction recently by the Washington Post.


    That story was supposedly "independently confirmed" by CNN, NBC News, USA Today, ABC News, & PBS News Hour. How could they all have gotten the quote wrong if they actually independently confirmed the story?






    Why do all the errors always go in one political direction and not closer to 50/50?
     
    This guy is seriously channeling Tokyo Rose. It’s shocking how in the tank he is for Putin:


    Gee I wonder why anyone would think the US blew up the pipeline? Can someone explain why Russia would supposedly blow up their own pipeline that they invested billions to build and it's their best leverage play against Europe?




    The Polish husband of CIA linked Anne Applebaum celebrated the attack on Nord Stream. He's since deleted the tweet.
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    Gee I wonder why anyone would think the US blew up the pipeline? Can someone explain why Russia would supposedly blow up their own pipeline that they invested billions to build and it's their best leverage play against Europe?




    The Polish husband of CIA linked Anne Applebaum celebrated the attack on Nord Stream. He's since deleted the tweet.
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    At least you’re consistent in being a terrorist sympathizer.
     
    SFL - I don’t know how you manage to find the worst possible take and then champion it, but you consistently do so. It’s uncanny.

    Russian ships were recorded in the area. Russia routinely does these types of acts - they have been known to blow up their own stuff to blame it on other countries. It’s a common Kremlin tactic. And you are buying the propaganda that accompanies their act of self-sabotage hook, line and sinker.

    But you’ve been buying their propaganda for years, why stop now? Lol.

    Russia’s best leverage? Lol, they were about to lose that leverage anyway and they knew it.
     
    SFL - I don’t know how you manage to find the worst possible take and then champion it, but you consistently do so. It’s uncanny.

    Russian ships were recorded in the area. Russia routinely does these types of acts - they have been known to blow up their own stuff to blame it on other countries. It’s a common Kremlin tactic. And you are buying the propaganda that accompanies their act of self-sabotage hook, line and sinker.

    But you’ve been buying their propaganda for years, why stop now? Lol.

    Russia’s best leverage? Lol, they were about to lose that leverage anyway and they knew it.
    Russia ships were recorded in the area? Did the US government say that in an official capacity or did some unnamed intelligence officials report that?

    Can you list even one reason why Russia would blow up their only leverage play again Europe? I haven't heard one yet. Wouldn't it make more sense for Russia to have blown up the 2 new pipelines in that area?
     
    2001 called and they want their foreign policy back.

    Bush: "You Are Either With Us, Or With the Terrorists"

    If someone says "I think the US, not al Qaeda, bombed the twin towers, and they had it coming," that would be sympathizing with terrorists, right?

    Replace twin towers with Nord Stream and al Qaeda with Russia, and that's literally your position.
     
    Russia ships were recorded in the area? Did the US government say that in an official capacity or did some unnamed intelligence officials report that?

    Can you list even one reason why Russia would blow up their only leverage play again Europe? I haven't heard one yet. Wouldn't it make more sense for Russia to have blown up the 2 new pipelines in that area?
    $$$$. Have you read any articles on the possible reasons or did you eat that guy's twitter explanation up? Snippets of Biden remarks sound a lot like taking out of context nulands remark or do you still believe it was some us coup?

    This is the thing. You take at face value Russia's reasoning but question your own government. Russia is known for their "sovereign democracy". Where nothing is true and the truth is buried under conspiracy theories.

    Take the Moscow apartment bombings. Russian agents were caught planting bombs under an apartment building. The bombs used were found to be originated from some Russian military base. Yet Chechens were blamed. Subsequently the investigators were all fire or killed. And then we get the brutal subjugation of Chechnya. Their city was razed much like mariupal.

    Now You tell me who's stuck in some past?
     
    $$$$. Have you read any articles on the possible reasons or did you eat that guy's twitter explanation up? Snippets of Biden remarks sound a lot like taking out of context nulands remark or do you still believe it was some us coup?

    This is the thing. You take at face value Russia's reasoning but question your own government. Russia is known for their "sovereign democracy". Where nothing is true and the truth is buried under conspiracy theories.

    Take the Moscow apartment bombings. Russian agents were caught planting bombs under an apartment building. The bombs used were found to be originated from some Russian military base. Yet Chechens were blamed. Subsequently the investigators were all fire or killed. And then we get the brutal subjugation of Chechnya. Their city was razed much like mariupal.

    Now You tell me who's stuck in some past?
    I don't get any news or information from Russian sources so I'm not sure what you are talking about. Just because I question what our government says doesn't mean I believe what Putin/Russia claims.

    I haven't seen anyone give any reason that made any sense as to why Russia would blow up their own pipeline.

    You are trying to claim I took Biden's remarks out of context? You saw the reporter followed up with another question and he confirmed the US would stop it. Also Nuland said the same exact thing on video.

    The US had lied many times to justify wars or military engagements. Do you deny that fact?
     
    I don't get any news or information from Russian sources so I'm not sure what you are talking about. Just because I question what our government says doesn't mean I believe what Putin/Russia claims.

    I haven't seen anyone give any reason that made any sense as to why Russia would blow up their own pipeline.

    You are trying to claim I took Biden's remarks out of context? You saw the reporter followed up with another question and he confirmed the US would stop it. Also Nuland said the same exact thing on video.

    The US had lied many times to justify wars or military engagements. Do you deny that fact?
    Just because you don't think a source is Russian doesnt mean it doesnt have Russian origins. Who do you think Michael Tracey is? And folks with similar backgrounds. You are peddling Russian disinformation without even knowing it. What do you think this whole pipeline issue is about? You instantly bought into the us did it bc of biden's tough talk a long time ago? Or rather you already have a confirmation bias? At this point no ones knows for sure who did it. The US has zero benefit from this. The Europeans have already started to phase out Russian dependence and the schedule is sometimes at the end of this year. However the Russians had a contractual obligation still with a large penalty. Now it no longer does. Europe cant build up stores for the winter through nord and Russia doesnt pay a dime. Convenient right?

    The US arent saints. They staged a coup in Iran with the help of the brits bc BP didn't like that the Iranians wanted their fair share. The US also staged election interference in Italy because they feared Communism. But you know whats different? The US has mechanism to question the illegalities we do. We may even from time to time get an Iraq invasion. But least we question our mistakes and try to remedy it successful or not. We will live with our hypocrisy from the Iraqi invasion but we re not lying about it now.

    Where as Russia lies as a modus operandi. He begins the war using NATO as the catalyst. Putin claims that ukraine isnt a real nation nor culture. Now he has moved virtually all defenses from the baltic borders that if any of those nations wants to take moscow and st Petersburg it will be a question of how many hours and who gets there first. And just the other day he says he always respected ukrainian culture. Its a load of crap and you buy into every time. From the US coup in Ukraine to Chechnya, Moldova, Georgia and to this flaming garbage. They lie every time.

    The most tragic thing though, you want this all to be true because you hate the US just that much. Where we may be hypocrites sometimes....you see Russian boots standing over obvious human rights atrocities and point to the US to say that we are the real criminals.

    Ps...where are the real proof that we staged the coup in Ukraine? Have you seen all these videos from the orange revolutions and the maidan? Do you have that little respect for their pursuit of self determination and despise the US nefarious web of world domination to ignore all that? Or perhaps people like tracey, greenwald, musk, etc are just flat wrong about what Ukrainians want? After all they are dying for their cause. At the least respect their sacrifice.
     
    It’s been pointed out 2-3 times that Russia routinely commits acts of sabotage and sometimes atrocities themselves and then blames them on others. Yet, SFL, you keep rejecting that and repeating that nobody has shown why Russia would do it. It’s in their playbook, they’ve done it repeatedly in the past, they are doing it during the Ukraine War.

    Your affinity for Russian propaganda is uncanny.
     

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