Kremlin papers appear to show Putin’s plot to put Trump in White House (1 Viewer)

[Booker]

Not really that shocking to anyone paying attention the last five years. The only question was whether Russia was working with the campaign, which the Mueller investigation was unable to confirm, but it was obvious Russia was working in Trump's interest.

And no doubt Putin feels he got his money's worth, just for January 6 alone. The elevation of Donald Trump was one of the worst things that ever happened to this country.

The report – “No 32-04 \ vd” – is classified as secret. It says Trump is the “most promising candidate” from the Kremlin’s point of view. The word in Russian is perspektivny.

There is a brief psychological assessment of Trump, who is described as an “impulsive, mentally unstable and unbalanced individual who suffers from an inferiority complex”.

There is also apparent confirmation that the Kremlin possesses kompromat, or potentially compromising material, on the future president, collected – the document says – from Trump’s earlier “non-official visits to Russian Federation territory”.

“It is acutely necessary to use all possible force to facilitate his [Trump’s] election to the post of US president,” the paper says.

This would help bring about Russia’s favoured “theoretical political scenario”. A Trump win “will definitely lead to the destabilisation of the US’s sociopolitical system” and see hidden discontent burst into the open, it predicts.

Kremlin papers appear to show Putin’s plot to put Trump in White House

Exclusive: Documents suggest Russia launched secret multi-agency effort to interfere in US democracy

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[SFIDC3]

The Chinese will eat your lunch one day. We need a strong fair diplomat not a China arse kisser (Biden) or Russian arse kisser (Trump).

I'm sorry this is an idiotic comment (see, I'm attacking the comment not the commenter, in the "present" as it were).....we are among China's leading trade partners, like it or not. It is in China's best economic interests that we have a stable Govt....and vice versa....

 

[The moose]

It would be nice if the USA takes a lesser role in the wold----like Australia.

That was for s just plain silly. Australia is not even close to what you want in a country.

Australia has free health care, one of the highest tax rate in the free world, no real industry except for going out in the bush and looking for iron or gold and other things or farming. Oh the major industry is healthcare.

Oh let's not bring up the everyone can't own a gun if they want thing. Self defense is not a reason allowed to purchase a gun. Real testing and background checks and an actual reason to own like a job. 2/3 of Americans could not own a gun in Australia.


So you got any other utterly silly stuff to say?

Lots of liberals would like us to be like Australia with the healthcare and rich people paying taxes would be a great start.

 

[Paul]

That was for s just plain silly. Australia is not even close to what you want in a country.

Australia has free health care, one of the highest tax rate in the free world, no real industry except for going out in the bush and looking for iron or gold and other things or farming. Oh the major industry is healthcare.

BTW, I am 100% fro national health care. IN that regard I like Australia. I was speaking to having a lesser role in world affairs. Lastly, they remain a developed nation and that is good enough for me.

Oh let's not bring up the everyone can't own a gun if they want thing. Self defense is not a reason allowed to purchase a gun. Real testing and background checks and an actual reason to own like a job. 2/3 of Americans could not own a gun in Australia.

I do not own guns. Where I live I can call 911 and a cop appears in two minutes. However, if I lived in a farm in a sparsely populated area I would own a gun for self defense. Calling the cops won't help because it would take over a half hour for the cops to show up. Lastly unarmed citizens are unable to fight tyranny by the government. Just look at Cuba, North Korea, and Venezuela.

So you got any other utterly silly stuff to say?

Lots of liberals would like us to be like Australia with the healthcare and rich people paying taxes would be a great start.

OK, I am silly, but I do not have class envy and I do not want to appropriate the money of others for my own benefit.

 

[SFIDC3]

OK, I am silly, but I do not have class envy and I do not want to appropriate the money of others for my own benefit.

Since when does requiring the uber wealthy and corps paying their fair share in taxes (instead of none) appropriating the money of others for our benefit. It seems they are the only ones benefitting from our garbage tax code....in the present of course....

 

[SaintForLife]

I see the same Russia Trump media playbook is still in effect. The same people pushing more Russia BS are amplifying this story eventhough they all know the author is a fraud.





Even some of the biggest Russia hawks are skeptical of this story.



When MSNBC won't touch a Russiagate story then you know its bad.

 

[Paul]

Since when does requiring the uber wealthy and corps paying their fair share in taxes (instead of none) appropriating the money of others for our benefit. It seems they are the only ones benefitting from our garbage tax code....in the present of course....

I am just thankful we live in a nation with wealthy people that can pay taxes to help those less fortunate. It is happening.

 

[SFIDC3]

I am just thankful we live in a nation with wealthy people that can pay taxes to help those less fortunate. It is happening.

I'm thankful I live here, but for different reasons. I think that as a nation we have much room to improve and one of the areas we can is a more fair and balanced tax code...

 

[MT15]

Mate’s tweet is actually hilarious. One scam artist recognizing another, lol. And GG is still breaking his arm patting himself on his own back and being salty because he failed at his MSM gigs.

They are basically parodies at this point.

ETA: The above is my personal opinion. But it is true that these two have huge axes to grind and nothing they say should be believed until it is confirmed by alternate sources. They have definite agendas and are not neutral reporters. One of them isn’t even really a journalist at all, I don’t think.

 

[SaintForLife]

Mate’s tweet is actually hilarious. One scam artist recognizing another, lol. And GG is still breaking his arm patting himself on his own back and being salty because he failed at his MSM gigs.

They are basically parodies at this point.

ETA: The above is my personal opinion. But it is true that these two have huge axes to grind and nothing they say should be believed until it is confirmed by alternate sources. They have definite agendas and are not neutral reporters. One of them isn’t even really a journalist at all, I don’t think.

Attack the messenger while you ignore that Harding has been proven to be a fraud, but that doesn't stop the usual people for falling for the same Russia playbook over and over. Russia is living rent free in your head.

Your "axe to grind" schtick and claiming that they have an agenda or arent neutral for something you disagree with is getting old and very repetitive.

I see you are still sticking with your normal Russia routine of rarely every addressing the specifics.

You know that Harding wrote the BS article, thats still up and not corrected, about Manafort and Assange meeting right?

Can you point out anything that was incorrect about the tweets I posted? Let me guess, you don't think its worth the time.

 

[B4YOU]

It would be nice if the USA takes a lesser role in the wold----like Australia.

What would this lesser role look like?

I see any lesser role as the US making space for China, Russia, or India. None of these countries needs a greater role. Australia can’t say word one to China because they do more trade with China than Japan, EU, and US combined.

 

[UriUT]

I'm thankful I live here, but for different reasons. I think that as a nation we have much room to improve and one of the areas we can is a more fair and balanced tax code...

Btw, what was said is like a serf, a slave, a feudal servant thanking his lord that he is grateful to live on his land and serve his master.

I mean never mind that the interstate and all the infrastructure, including consumption is based on the vast majority. My brother in law had this mentality. They create jobs therefore they van get away with fleecing us. How easy is it to manipulate the intellectual weak to sit at a table and have them pray and thank the ones fleecing their pockets. I rewatched the sum of all fears last night. I can't help but think those that think like that is similar to the poor guy happily accepting 400 dollars for a nuke. To top it off, he thanked the conman because he cant believe he was deserving of the generosity.

And nevermind that being born into wealth makes a person astronomically easier to gain more wealth.

 

[UriUT]

What would this lesser role look like?

I see any lesser role as the US making space for China, Russia, or India. None of these countries needs a greater role. Australia can’t say word one to China because they do more trade with China than Japan, EU, and US combined.

Also remember the obama-biden attempt to gain leverage on China by opening our markets to those countries that heavily rely on china? Choosing from a set of very weak responses due to very little leverage isnt catering to China. It s difficult to convince our allies let alone those that are completely at China s mercy to take action.

 

[MT15]

Attack the messenger while you ignore that Harding has been proven to be a fraud, but that doesn't stop the usual people for falling for the same Russia playbook over and over. Russia is living rent free in your head.

Your "axe to grind" schtick and claiming that they have an agenda or arent neutral for something you disagree with is getting old and very repetitive.

I see you are still sticking with your normal Russia routine of rarely every addressing the specifics.

You know that Harding wrote the BS article, thats still up and not corrected, about Manafort and Assange meeting right?

Can you point out anything that was incorrect about the tweets I posted? Let me guess, you don't think its worth the time.

So, show me where I defended that hack article? You can’t because I didn’t.

Look, I know you’re a big fan boy of GG and Mate, and you think they’re absolutely right about everything. I just like pointing out that they’re just as much hacks as the people they rail about. I know you can’t see that because you’re enamored of them.

What I actually said wasn’t that GG was incorrect (nice straw man), it was that he loves to take credit himself for some pretty obvious ideas. As if he alone can see the truth.

They both clearly have huge axes to grind about the mainstream press. Now I’m all for criticism where it is due, but they have both shown that they will manufacture criticism in the past, even when it’s not deserved. In this case, the mainstream press is rightly ignoring this story, yet they still manage to take snarky swipes at them over it. They’re not serious people, at least in their Twitter feeds, they basically operate as trolls.

I don’t expect this will change your mind about them, though. Just some food for thought.

 

[Devildog]

Attack the messenger while you ignore that Harding has been proven to be a fraud, but that doesn't stop the usual people for falling for the same Russia playbook over and over. Russia is living rent free in your head.

Your "axe to grind" schtick and claiming that they have an agenda or arent neutral for something you disagree with is getting old and very repetitive.

I see you are still sticking with your normal Russia routine of rarely every addressing the specifics.

You know that Harding wrote the BS article, thats still up and not corrected, about Manafort and Assange meeting right?

Can you point out anything that was incorrect about the tweets I posted? Let me guess, you don't think its worth the time.

For someone who still pushes the Hunter Biden laptop crap, this is rich.

 

[SaintForLife]

For someone who still pushes the Hunter Biden laptop crap, this is rich.

Hunter Biden finally admits laptop at center of Post exposé could ‘certainly’ belong to him

Hunter Biden has finally ‘fessed up that the laptop at the center of The Post’s explosive exposé last year “certainly” could belong to him, he revealed in an interview Frida…

nypost.com

I keep bringing up the Hunter Biden laptop story because the media worked together to censor a story that could have harmed Biden’s election chances. That’s never happen before, but I guessing you have no problem with it. Once again, the media blackout of the Hunter Biden laptop is way more important than the actual story.

 

[MT15]

There was no media blackout, though. Believe me, we heard about it initially, until most people realized there was nothing there. Then it died a merciful death like hack stories should.

The idea that there was some sort of conspiracy to bury a legitimate story is pure BS.

 

[SaulGoodmanEsq]

Hunter Biden is basically Billy Carter at this point. Anyway, this story is about as legitimate as the stories you see on Gateway Pundit and Breitbart. To wit, not at all. Of course, one doesn't need a signed document to come to the credible belief that Putin loved having Trump as President. You don't need to look further than the events of January 6th to see that.

 

[SaintForLife]

So, show me where I defended that hack article? You can’t because I didn’t.

Look, I know you’re a big fan boy of GG and Mate, and you think they’re absolutely right about everything. I just like pointing out that they’re just as much hacks as the people they rail about. I know you can’t see that because you’re enamored of them.

What I actually said wasn’t that GG was incorrect (nice straw man), it was that he loves to take credit himself for some pretty obvious ideas. As if he alone can see the truth.

They both clearly have huge axes to grind about the mainstream press. Now I’m all for criticism where it is due, but they have both shown that they will manufacture criticism in the past, even when it’s not deserved. In this case, the mainstream press is rightly ignoring this story, yet they still manage to take snarky swipes at them over it. They’re not serious people, at least in their Twitter feeds, they basically operate as trolls.

I don’t expect this will change your mind about them, though. Just some food for thought.

When have you ever criticized the mainstream press? You always try to discredit things by saying it wasn’t reported by the mainstream press. You need to be more skeptical of the mainstream press rather than regurgitating everything they say.

Here are 24 reasons why you should be more skeptical of the media, but I doubt you will even look at the detailed examples.

Master List Of Official Russia Claims That Proved To Be Bogus

The Director of National Intelligence releases a report, and the press rushes to kick the football again.

taibbi.substack.com

I’ll post some of examples of the media amplifying this story in the media thread.

Can you explain how Greenwald supposedly failed at his MSM gigs because I don’t think that’s accurate. I don’t believe or agree with everything Greenwald or Mate says, but they talk about or criticize things that the liberal reporters ignore. It’s also quite obvious that the media(and many around here) branded anyone that didn’t go along with the media Russiagate narratives as Kremlin stooges, supporters of Russia, fascists, grifters, etc.